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Help Grading My Coins: No. 9 - Morgan Dollar 1881 - S

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 Posted 07/19/2022  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HP2001PH to your friends list
Here you go


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 Posted 07/19/2022  5:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cointagous to your friends list
Now the thumb print becomes much more evident center obverse. I would still call it MS-62.
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 Posted 07/19/2022  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
That cheek slash in the first pic really kills it for me. I'll say MS-62.
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 Posted 07/19/2022  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
Obverse has a lot of contact marks. Reverse is very nice, with a sharp strike and no distracting marks. MS-62
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 Posted 07/19/2022  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JTCC to your friends list
I say low grade MS on this one, good buy for 40 euros.
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 Posted 07/19/2022  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ericgreen to your friends list
Agree with MS-62
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 Posted 07/20/2022  07:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
the reverse on this coin is very nice. I venture to say if the photos are accurate its MS65. nice luster and strike is on point for this year. the obv is a different bird. both your obv photos are not showing if the luster is broke across the cheek. the first photo has shadowing and the 2nd to much glare. both making it difficult to assess any marks or scuffs etc. the nose and eye area appear to be the worse areas. I dont think they are bad enough to details the coin.

I think the coin overall is better than a 62 and I think the obv will hold it back from a 64 so my grade is MS63 on this one and a good buy at the price
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 Posted 07/20/2022  08:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HP2001PH to your friends list
Thank you for your detailed explanation.

I also feel that the reverse is in really really good shape.

I will try to get a better pic of Liberty's cheek and post it later this evening.
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 Posted 07/20/2022  08:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list

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I will try to get a better pic of Liberty's cheek and post it later this evening.


the biggest key is try to avoid the glare. try even taking the photo without any lighting as well. I dont think its going to change the grade as the coin cannot get to 64 and is better than a 62 but i'd like to see it better to confirm how bad the marks around the nose and eye are
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 Posted 07/20/2022  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ham1947 to your friends list
These photos say MS61 to me.
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 Posted 07/20/2022  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HP2001PH to your friends list
I sm obviously a novice, but comparing this with the examples at PCGS (I discovered them only recently.), I can't say I agree.

MS-61 looks significantly worse. I think its at least as good as the MS-62 example.
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 Posted 07/20/2022  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HP2001PH to your friends list
Another try at getting the cheek pictured


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 Posted 07/21/2022  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
still too much light causing glare. you need to get away from a window or overhead lighting thats causing this but at least we can see the cheek a little better.

I'm still at MS63. its not beat up enough for a 62 and 63's tend to have a wider range than other MS grades in the number marks, scuffs and scratches


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 Posted 07/21/2022  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ericgreen to your friends list
With the photo suggestions here. This latest picture does bump it up to a MS-63 for me
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 Posted 07/21/2022  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HP2001PH to your friends list
Tried just ambient room lighing here as well. Better?
$&fz§ its blurry

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