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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Compare the bead sizes in the hair. Compare the hair curl shapes and sizes. I believe this is a Lebanese counterfeit made in the 1970s-1980's time period. They were very close to the originals but small design features were off. Much better quality than what comes from China now but still fake. They were used strictly for gold sales back then.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Also compare the shapes of the reverse lettering. Larger photos of the OP coin would help show this.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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It sure appears to be a counterfeit. Good eye IGE!
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Pillar of the Community
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This is interesting. I am not going to buy the coin, but I am still having some difficulty distinguishing it as a counterfeit. I trust it is, but I am looking for telltale signs that it is fake. The hair beads and curves look to my amateurish eye like a weak strike. If anyone is interested, I am open to learning as much as possible so please keep this thread going . . .
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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however OP is stating they dont have the coin. if its possible to go back and retake it, it would help. I can see what IGE is seeing and I wouldnt buy this unless I was sure. it could be strike or different die  OP try this if you go back. 1. remove coin from holder if possible 2. turn off flash 3. place coin on flat surface with indirect natural light. maybe a window sill in a cloudy day 4. move phone about 3in from coin 5. zoom in using your fingers until the coin comes into focus 6. hold phone steady. if you cant then place something on either side of the coin at that distance and lay phone on top. this will hold it steady and allow you to zoom and take the photo without any blurring |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Roma2021, the best way to tell a fake is to compare photos of coins that have been graded by NGC and PCGS. Then start comparing the different parts of the design.
Can you post larger photos of those you have opened this thread with?
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Pillar of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Compare the lettering on this coin with your photos. This is another 1886-S in an NGC holder.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Here's a third NGC coin close up on lower lettering.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
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@IGE, thank you for being patient with me. I am seeing some softness in the details on the coin I handled; especially the 'E' in 'Five'. I do not see anything that jumps out as being strikingly or alarmingly different. As a new collector that has not handled this coin before I would (mistakenly) assume this softness is from wear or moderate circulation.
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Pillar of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It's not a coin I would buy if offered to me. I just see too many things about it I don't like.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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Thank you both. I am going to spend some time on this one, but if I hadn't posted here I would have bought this one. To my untrained eye, I am not seeing enough red flags, but I'm glad I ran it by all of you. It's diameter, thickness, and weight are all on and the shop is reputable. It makes me feel like an absolute amateur that I cannot spot what seems to be glarring to others. Thanks again everyone. Edit - I am starting to see it; although I have to home in on the details on my phone and laptop and look for the exact areas of potential weakeness, ie bubbly, soft lettering, overall weakness in strike, etc. https://coinweek.com/counterfeits/c...-half-eagle/https://www.ngccoin.com/news/articl...t-Detection/Edited by Roma2021
09/16/2022 2:54 pm
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