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Grading Thoughts On This 1808 Capped Bust Half Dollar

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 Posted 01/04/2023  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinEnthusiast to your friends list
To answer your question @jacrispies, the dealer assigned a grade of XF-45 to the coin while I was at AU-55. The dealer indicated that the weakness across certain parts of the coin was due to wear, not strike. I pointed out the luster and the fact that these early bust halves often had weak strikes, but he didn't budge from his initial grade on the coin. He might have also been trying to undersell the coin to buy it from me at a low price. He tried to buy it off of me for about $525, an offer I rejected pretty quickly.
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 Posted 01/04/2023  2:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TobyJ to your friends list
I don't see any wear whatsoever and it looks like weakness in strike. Please can we see a video to assess the lustre?
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 Posted 01/04/2023  2:18 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
The obverse strike is weak so the market grade might be lower than the technical grade.
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 Posted 01/04/2023  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
The coin would be a good example to send for grading as a large difference in value between XF45 and AU55.
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 Posted 01/04/2023  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
this coin is AU all day. first impression AU55
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 Posted 01/04/2023  6:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list
It is evident that this coin has been cleaned from the disparity between the fields and devices.

This was an older cleaning and not harsh, it should straight grade in today's market.

Great details-decent luster.

AU57

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 Posted 01/04/2023  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Is there any evidence of cleaning on close examination of the obverse surfaces?
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 Posted 01/04/2023  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ploopy to your friends list
AU55. Dealer is incorrect. Nice CBH.
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 Posted 01/05/2023  1:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinEnthusiast to your friends list
Thank you for your opinions, everyone! I don't see any evidence of cleaning on the obverse. I'll see if I can take a video of the coin and post it here later today or tomorrow so that you all can better assess the luster.
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 Posted 01/05/2023  2:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wideglide to your friends list
Of course he was going to knock it down a grade. That's a $500 difference in the Blue Book!
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 Posted 01/06/2023  09:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinEnthusiast to your friends list
Here's a video of the coin that I took last night and finally figured out how to post this morning. Hopefully, it gives you a better idea of the coin's luster.

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 Posted 01/06/2023  1:34 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
It's a tough call. Without TPG you won't get near AU55 or 58 money for it. Best case you have it TPG and get an AU58 grade and it's worth $6,000 like this one: https://www.sheridanscoins.com/past...currentMB=54
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After taking a look at the video and the pictures, do you all think that my coin would be worth submitting to PCGS? I've never sent any coins out for grading, so any advice would be appreciated. Additionally, I'll post a few more coins in my collection to gather your thoughts on if they're worth submitting. Thanks!
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 Posted 01/07/2023  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
post coins in this forum to determine slabbing viability. this one may be a good choice. keep in mind the costs involved. PCGS requires a subscription minimum $69. higher subscriptions include some vouchers. you then have a cost of probably $22 or $38 per coin based on value then you have shipping and insurance both ways.
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 Posted 01/07/2023  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TobyJ to your friends list
Need it out of the plastic to assess lustre please, as the light bounces from the plastic and not the coin. I still think this is AU58 all day long minimum. Send it to NGC, they are far superior to PCGS in my opinion, the holders look nicer and the membership is a bit cheaper.
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