They weren't even found until the early 90s when Eva Adams (mint director in the 60s) passed away. They were in her estate. There are shytsers on ebay though that take the 1966 or 1967 SMS hard case and replace the coins in them with a 1964 mint or proof set coins and try to sell them as 1964 SMS sets, whcich there never was.
To this day, I don't think I've run across anyone in a Facebook coin group that doesn't have a 1964 SMS coin.
The odds of finding one in the wild are basically nil. Some experts wonder if PCGS or NGC would even certify one found in the wild without provenance back to Eva Adams.
Didn't we ban stories on 1964 SMS coins and 1936 Canada Dot Cents ? . I am not sure how many more times it has to be stated .. " there are none in the wild!": Bobby has a great point on whether PCGS or NGC would Even certify any unless back to either Eva Adams or Lester Merkin. With obviously so many " bidiots " out there buying these made up 1964 sets in the 66/67 hard plastic , I am tempted to manufacture mine .. but I value my ANA membership and my other numismatic credentials and reputation far too much . Still amazes me .the lack of education and numismatic skills out there! People spending thousands or more on coins without 20 bucks going to a book or attending a local club or show .
Quote: Funny thing is, is that they don't say that the coin are SMS, only that they are Mint coins in a SMS holder...
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Quote: The odds of finding one in the wild are basically nil. Some experts wonder if PCGS or NGC would even certify one found in the wild without provenance back to Eva Adams.
That was essentially my conclusion the couple times I looked into it such as here and its always fun to post the unicorn image :) http://goccf.com/t/424329 There are many different theories on why the 1964 SMS coins were produced. These coins could have been produced as prototypes for the 1965 to 1967 SMS coins. The 1964 SMS coins could have also been produced as introductory pieces, possibly even intended to include a 1964-D Peace dollar. Furthermore, it is believed these SMS coins came into existence somehow through the involvement of Eva Adams, U.S. Mint Director at the time. After Eva Adams passed away, her estate was sold off and well-recognized dealer and auctioneer Lester Merkin purchased many of the coins from her estate. Lester Merkin's collection was then sold in a Stack's auction in the early 1990s, including some, if not all, of the known 1964 SMS coins.
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