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 Posted 02/24/2023  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list
It's some type of environmental damage/chemical reaction and worth 5 cents.
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 Posted 02/24/2023  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Frankx to your friends list
Not sure you looked at it. That's copper. It does have some on the back aswell. It looks like some dimes I have that the clad was thin
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 Posted 02/24/2023  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgfindring to your friends list
They looked at it. It is something we see on here quite frequently. It is environmental staining/discoloration. Really.
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 Posted 02/24/2023  1:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgfindring to your friends list
And in all probability your dimes are actually the same. Environmental discoloration like this is quite common, missing clad is quite rare and usually results in a very mushy looking strike.
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 Posted 02/24/2023  1:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list
5 cents aren't "clad" so there is no copper core surrounded by nickel. 5 cents are actually a mix of copper and nickel so there is no "thin" plating.

If you truly think it's an error, you should get it slabbed. I recommend using PCGS and paying for expedited processing.
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 Posted 02/24/2023  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Frankx to your friends list
If it's environmental please describe to me what makes nickel turn copper colored. I'm real curios to know
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 Posted 02/24/2023  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin rejector to your friends list
@Frankx.... Comparing your coin to that of an improperly annealed planchet nickel on the most popular internet auction site, it does have similar characteristics. That being said, I do agree w/ others that it looks more like a stain, than improperly annealed. I would recommend, if you have a LCS (local coin shop) in your area, just take your coin in, have someone take a look at it & see if they come to the same conclusion (that its simply a stain). I do not believe they would charge you a fee.
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 Posted 02/24/2023  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list

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If it's environmental please describe to me what makes nickel turn copper colored. I'm real curios to know


I'm originally from Portugal, and I've always collected coins. When I was 7 years (before moving to the US), I put a few old coins in a tin box. The coins were silver, copper, nickel and aluminum. The tin was in my bedroom inside my nightstand. Over the years, the house was not lived it. It was taken care but not really lived in. About 10 years ago, my mom tore down the original house and built a new one. The few items she wanted saved including the tin with coins was stored in a garage and got wet. The tin rusted and the non silver coins got corroded. About 5 years ago my mom found the tin in the garage and brought the coins back to the US. The copper nickel coins ALL had a copper stain on them. Having mixed metal coins together in a wet environment will cause a reaction like electroplating, in which the copper will transfer to the nickel coins. Even some of the silver coins had the copper color around the edges, but silver is not as reactive as copper and therefore the environmental damage/staining was minimal. I ended up chucking the copper/nickel coins, but did keep the silver coins. Look at *De* that is not toning that is copper transfer.

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Here is the thread.

http://goccf.com/t/355221

But like I posted, please have this magical coin graded and when we are wrong you will have a coin worth mucho bucks.

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 Posted 02/24/2023  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Frankx to your friends list
As an electrician for 15 years in the state of Missouri I have seen what environment can do to many types of metallurgic compounds. Electroplating is not an easy thing to do. My local coin shop has same outcome as me. It is part of the coin. How it has become like this we have no idea. I figured asking coincollectors that have been collecting for years would result in a better conclusion. But I remember years back I tried this community and I had one expert tell me how jealous others are here and knock anything they don't have. I showed a very rare penny I had. It was a very rare error. Double core, double die. Only a couple known to exist. Well here I was told Dryer Coin. I almost spent it. I went to a coin expo and sold it for $14500. So was hoping it was better this time around. Guess not
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 Posted 02/24/2023  3:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list

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But I remember years back I tried this community and I had one expert tell me how jealous others are here and knock anything they don't have. I showed a very rare penny I had. It was a very rare error. Double core, double die. Only a couple known to exist. Well here I was told Dryer Coin. I almost spent it. I went to a coin expo and sold it for $14500.


So you sold this for $14,500?

http://goccf.com/t/415352

OK

Like I posted above, you get the Nickel graded by PCGS and do it expedited service! I think you will make all the nonbelievers jealous when it comes back!
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 Posted 02/24/2023  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin rejector to your friends list
@Frank.... "My local coin shop has same outcome as me. It is part of the coin. How it has become like this we have no idea."

In regards to your coin, if you've already consulted w/ your local coin shop & they verified "It is part of the coin.", do as hfjacinto mentioned & have it graded by PCGS.
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 Posted 02/24/2023  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jasper62 to your friends list
So you sold this for $14,500?

http://goccf.com/t/415352

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 Posted 02/24/2023  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list
if any of the color comes off via a bath in acetone, it's some sort of surface staining, which is the most likely cause
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 Posted 02/25/2023  06:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
I vaguely remember reading something about copper leaching on nickels that were buried. You might want to research that.
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