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Unexpected Find In "Coinstar" Machine

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 Posted 05/16/2023  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
Very nice!

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 Posted 05/16/2023  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SquareCircle to your friends list

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Your post was moved to the appropriate forum for the proper attention.


Thanks, I wasn't sure where to put it. Even if I'd seen the "Coin Roll Hunting" forum I wouldn't have known that this belonged there.
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 Posted 05/16/2023  11:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
No problem!

In case you missed it, we have an ongoing topic of finds...

http://goccf.com/t/128850
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326 pages and counting? Yikes!
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326 pages and counting? Yikes!
Yeah, but you can bookmark it for a rainy day.

And if that seems like a lot, you might want to look away from this CRH topic...

http://goccf.com/t/22710
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 Posted 05/16/2023  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joewobblie to your friends list
To answer your question about obverse and reverse not aligning I would call it rotated dies - are they common on world coins? The answer is - depends! For the piece you have I would say it is not rare if it is 10-20 degrees off, but more than that makes it interesting to me!
The more modern they get the rarer to find imo
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if that seems like a lot, you might want to look away from this CRH topic...


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For the piece you have I would say it is not rare if it is 10-20 degrees off
I'd say it's around 10 degrees.
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 Posted 05/17/2023  07:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joewobblie to your friends list
I don't think 10 degrees is enough to bring any extra value for this one but it is interesting and I would note it on my holder if I owned it. And I am no expert :D
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 Posted 05/17/2023  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
Just a final note on the date of your coin. "1327" (AD 1909) isn't the year the coin was struck. This is the accession year of the Sultan whose name appears on the coin. To find the actual year in which the coin was struck, you will need to find the "regnal date" numerals on your coin, and then do some math. For example, on the coin shown on the Numista page you've linked to, the regnal year is "2" (the small numeral is, in this case, just beneath the toughra), so the actual year of issue is 1327 + 2 - 1 = AH 1328, or AD 1910.
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 Posted 05/17/2023  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hokiefan_82 to your friends list

That's quite an unusual find, congrats!
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"1327" (AD 1909) isn't the year the coin was struck. This is the accession year of the Sultan whose name appears on the coin. To find the actual year in which the coin was struck, you will need to find the "regnal date" numerals on your coin, and then do some math. For example, on the coin shown on the Numista page you've linked to, the regnal year is "2" (the small numeral is, in this case, just beneath the toughra), so the actual year of issue is 1327 + 2 - 1 = AH 1328, or AD 1910.

Ah, thank you. I knew I was missing something, and that was it.

My coin has a "5", so that would be a date of 1913.

P.S.: "Toughra" (or "tughra") is officially the latest new word I've learned. I had to look up how to pronounce it ("TOO-gra").
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I've been meaning to share a picture of the coin. This is the best I could get (using my scanner):
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- I hope I never have to explain to a non-collector how the date of this coin had to be determined. I can just imagine the eyes glazing over...
- I have found that neither "toughra" nor the alternate spelling "tughra" is a valid word in Words With Friends (i.e., online Scrabble). I think that is an unwarranted omission!
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I've been meaning to share a picture of the coin. This is the best I could get (using my scanner):
Very nice!
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 Posted 08/09/2023  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add marckdaniels to your friends list
Awesome find!
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