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Can Anyone Tell Me What Is Wrong With This 1970 S Penny

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 Posted 06/28/2023  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
Me I think was from the strike. Observe Die go loose and angled left.
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 Posted 06/28/2023  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list

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I Never Imagined with the Forces and Pressures used, That Could Happen, I mean, The Planchet is just So Thick,

Mike, go back and look the high relief profile of the Memorial cent coins - you will see that almost have a weaker strike in this area, it was first thought that it was just a Grease Filled Die, but after seeing a ton of these all in the same area, it was determined that is was the obverse design of the bust. Now, yes, some could be greasers too, but I noticed that, by looking at the word 'States', if the bottom half of the word is weak, and the vert tippy top of the word is strong, then the it not a Greaser - you see the top of States are aligned with the area on the obverse where the bust stops and the there is a small gap of the flat fields before the it rolls up to the rim.

Let me see if I can find a better example of this.
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 Posted 06/28/2023  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChristianL2004 to your friends list
let me know if these are good
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 Posted 06/28/2023  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list
A TAPERED planchet would weigh less. The weakness is on the right side of the coin. And yes it has the usual weakness in the STATES. Might be a tilted die
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 Posted 06/28/2023  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChristianL2004 to your friends list
My scale may be a bit off. But is it worth keeping or selling? These coins and collectibles I have were given to me for extra money while in college. I have doubles of alot of the coins I've sold and I keep 1. Obviously I only have one of like this. And how could all the other coins be uncirculated, what do you call this condition?

Again, thank you all for spending your time on this coin!
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 Posted 06/28/2023  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list
To ChristianL2004,

Thank You for the Posted Extra pictures.

John, What I am having problems with is IF the TILTED die was the Culprit, A, How does one explain whats going on above the IN GOD WE TRUST Motto.?

B, IF A tilted die was the Culprit, Why would the Right side of the Reverse Letters, " AMERICA " be so Thick, or Well Flattened MORE than the Left side of the Reverse. ?

Wouldn't a Strong Strike make AMERICA Letters So Flattened, ?
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 Posted 06/28/2023  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
My friend here say Tilted Die, Me I say loose Die Angled. Same. This was happened with your coin strike. Very interesting. It is considered variety ? I do not know.
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 Posted 06/29/2023  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list
I'm not seeing anything above the motto. On a tilted die one side of the coin will be struck up nice and 180 degrees out will be weak. The strong side is the left side of the coin. The weakness starts out at RUST and goes around to the 0. That corresponds to the NT around to AMERICA on the reverse. The usual weak strike of the STATES OF makes AMERICA even more weak. Silvio, more of a die adjustment error.
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 Posted 06/29/2023  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
Cu could be. I remember I see a old video with the way they prepare the Dies for ready to go. The Dies was hand wood hammer punch in the press fixing hub (name for the Die housing in the press). It is possible that the technician punch not strait. To day it is different.
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 Posted 06/29/2023  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list
It's definitely not a greater as a grease strike wouldn't affect the rims. Not sure if it's a tapered planchet or perhaps PMD.
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 Posted 07/07/2023  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChristianL2004 to your friends list
Thank you all. Is it best to send in for a grade?
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 Posted 07/07/2023  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list
I wouldn't send it for a grade until you know what's actually causing it and if it's numismatically significant. I don't think it's a Greaser, as I said, because a Greaser wouldn't affect the rims, so it is intriguing. But grading is like $50 for error attribution, and you want to make sure the coin is valuable enough to justify that before sending it in (and you should get an expert opinion like Mike Diamond's to send in with it so they don't screw up the error designation as TPGs so often do).
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 Posted 07/07/2023  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EricH to your friends list
I'm not sure what caused the issue but more importantly where did you come across a roll of 1970-s ? I want some
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 Posted 07/07/2023  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list
As stated above, not worth slabbing. It's more of a nice find, and not a great find. I'd put it in a 2x2. But that's me I'm a collector. Eric, they're all over ebay, just if you want to pay for them.
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 Posted 07/08/2023  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
This appears to be a minor tilted die error (vertical misalignment).
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