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I agree with rmpsrpms. Must be see in the hand.
The RPM ? is possible but the like S upper and left side bottom of the MM go for OMM. A dual combination yes could be. Must be analyze in hand. Bill, you can choose who will analyze your coin.
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For sure they are similar, but it does not look like RPM-009 to me. Not sure what the "S" looking thing at the top is. Probably need to view it in hand under stereo microscope and do overlays to be sure. It is most likely a die gouge but the shape is interesting enough to warrant more investigation.
I agree with all and with the call name "rmpsrpms", the OP should let you look it over. -makecents-
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Any of you guys want to see in hand? I have 6 or so. Send me an address in my email and I will mail one to any of you. More than happy to do that. Bill
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I still think it is a closer match to VV RPM-024: the split serifs match more closely to a slightly D/D rotated CW, as opposed to the RPM-009 with a D/D South  Edited by Dearborn
07/05/2023 9:15 pm
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No Bill: you better go with Tanner (Wex site new owner) as is Tanman here, rmpsrpms or TB (TropicalBats). Then if with the result Mike could write an article it is a new thing.
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07/05/2023 9:15 pm
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Regardless, gros, that was a nice catch, good eye! Whatever the RPM may be, listed or new, it's an early stage flying D.
-makecents-
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It is clearly a damaged punch, which is common for that date. Also a minor rotated RPM, also something very common for the date. I have pretty much given up trying to attribute those as there are many and after 10 minutes trying I often find the coin doesn't match anything listed. Frustrating, but it isn't 009 as the mm position is wrong but could be 024 as that looks pretty close. As for the possible S. Well, as noted there are a number of die chips and cracks known from around the mm and extending to the date, some of which make nice curves like seen on this coin. So likely it is just that, a minor RPM on a damaged punch with a die crack issue. But from the photos it does look remarkably like the top of an S. If you really wish to send one somewhere, send the one with the clearest mint mark to Dan Griffin, the RPM attributor for the Wexler site. His contact info is on the site and instructions for how to submit as well. He is the authority, so no point going elsewhere.
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Thanks TB for nice analyze. Also to know Daniel is on the line now.
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I agree with TB about sending to Dan Griffin for a attribution but also a sample to Ray (rmpsrpms), to get some very clear shots and possible 3D imagery.
It is hard to beat the subtle nuances in his 3D "eye candy". His imagery will probably be of help to determine an attribution.
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We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
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Thanks for your comments TB! Very inciteful.
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Thanks tropicalbats! Good job on the side by side, Dearborn!
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If Dan feels it is useful, he will send the coin to Ray, but since there is more than one example available I suppose both could be done at the same time.
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Good job on the side by side, Dearborn! Thanks Jon, It took a lot of work, but I tried to emulate what you did (appearance wise) |
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It is clearly a damaged punch, which is common for that date. Also a minor rotated RPM, also something very common for the date. I have pretty much given up trying to attribute those as there are many and after 10 minutes trying I often find the coin doesn't match anything listed. Frustrating, but it isn't 009 as the mm position is wrong but could be 024 as that looks pretty close. As for the possible S. Well, as noted there are a number of die chips and cracks known from around the mm and extending to the date, some of which make nice curves like seen on this coin. So likely it is just that, a minor RPM on a damaged punch with a die crack issue. But from the photos it does look remarkably like the top of an S. If you really wish to send one somewhere, send the one with the clearest mint mark to Dan Griffin, the RPM attributor for the Wexler site. His contact info is on the site and instructions for how to submit as well. He is the authority, so no point going elsewhere. As usual I couldn't seem to find the submission information  . I was curious but not that super interested in finding out. Being fairly new to this stuff it's probably something with the die. The more I stare at it the more I seem to make out the shape of the upper part of an S LOL. If the more experienced members truly think it's something the check out. Tell me and I will pursue it. |
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There are so many 52d rpms that aren't listed. Alot of them look the same with just a little something different. The damaged punch, die indents around the mm, flat top and more. Coopercoins has 75 listed. I'm sitting here with 4 rolls of unc rpms that I still can't id. Maybe some day I'll through them for the 10th time.
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Posted 07/05/2023 8:44 pm
