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 Posted 11/10/2023  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
So minor as to unlikely affect the grade or value of this coin.
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 Posted 11/10/2023  11:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KerryKz to your friends list
Don't get me wrong. Finding something valuable is always fun. But I just like the idea of finding something new or just neat too
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 Posted 11/11/2023  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list
Tanman's explanation is much more clear and I agree with him.
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 Posted 11/11/2023  3:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list
It's definitely not MDD. Could be a Type-III DDO, but I'm not aware of a change to the S in 1910. Perhaps a new discovery? Would be interesting to see overlays with some other 1910 Cents to see if there are two types of S. Also would be good to check everywhere else on the coin to see if there are other changes to the design.
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 Posted 11/29/2023  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shantiom to your friends list
how would one do an overlay of the coin with another from the same year and mint? what would you be looking for...
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 Posted 11/29/2023  1:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tacc to your friends list

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how would one do an overlay of the coin with another from the same year and mint? what would you be looking for...
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Heya Shant, Doing an overlay for a particular coin I do believe one would be
looking for a Die Clash, and also to see how a Mint Mark lines up with known RPM's.
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 Posted 11/29/2023  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
Finding something is fun regardless of value. You should first go to PCGS or Heritage etc image galleries and see if there's another one. Especially with something "new" you have to do your own legwork. In this case I quickly found a couple that may or may not be the same thing, not saying they are, and I don't have an explanation.

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 Posted 12/12/2023  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KerryKz to your friends list
While I appreciate your thoughts. I've looked on variety Vista. Pcgs. CherryPickers Guide guide book to Lincoln cents searched with Google and Google images and no one on here seemed to have seen this before either. Isn't the point of forums to discuss, ask, learn?
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 Posted 12/12/2023  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stoneman227 to your friends list
You are correct, Kerry, in the direction that forums can take. They are very much a source of information and help.
With that said, if you need answers beyond what is currently known, it may fall on you to break new ice .
I posted pics of my 1943-S fs-101 DDO on a Facebook group a while back. Looking at the photos, one of the members questioned something that he realized about the die. He had to advocate for his observations, and eventually ,the attributors and collecting community as a whole accepted what he saw. Thus the story behind the recent acceptance of the 1943/2 -S cent. That person now owns what was once my coin and considers it the discovery piece.
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Go ahead and keep asking questions and researching answers. We might not have them all.
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 Posted 12/12/2023  2:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KerryKz to your friends list
Well said... And one heck of a find!! That's really neat. And ty
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 Posted 12/12/2023  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list
What we are discussing is the heart of Numismatics, which I find to be a very rewarding endeavor. Learning, observation, research, documentation, discussion, and conclusion. It is not so very different from Science.

The images shown by @kbbpll look similar. I'm not personally familiar with the 1910 issues. Do they exhibit Master Die Doubling such that all 1910 coins show this anomalous "S"?

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 Posted 12/13/2023  06:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KerryKz to your friends list
As far as I've been able to find out the 1910 p Wheat cent has no known examples of a DDO
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 Posted 12/13/2023  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
I think it's "something", but not a DDO. You'll have to expand your investigation to other dates and mints, look at hundreds of coins, accumulate some stats, and try to come up with a theory. Not because it's going to have any collector value, but because you enjoy doing it. In my limited poking around, I'm also seeing it on 1911 Proof, as well as 1910 Proof. What about 1910-S or 1911-S? If it's on a master hub or die, why do most coins show a clean well-rounded tail on the S? Is it really on all of them but the strike brings it out more on proofs than circulation strikes? Were they cleaning up the S and caused this? Did it get transferred to a "working master" but not to others? These are the questions that come up for me, but first you have to prove that it's actually "something" and not MD or random PMD that coincidentally happened on multiple coins.

I went through this with Barber dimes a few years ago. Poking around with a microscope I found minuscule doubling and tripling on a couple letters in America. I thought, did I discover a DDO? Turns out it's probably on all of them, just depends on the strike and image quality to see it.

1910 PR
https://coins.ha.com/itm/proof-linc...bnail-071515
1911 PR
https://coins.ha.com/itm/proof-linc...bnail-071515
https://coins.ha.com/itm/proof-linc...bnail-071515
Clearest image of 1911 PR from here, below.
https://coins.ha.com/itm/proof-linc...bnail-071515
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 Posted 12/18/2023  03:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KerryKz to your friends list
Wow.. tons of good info on that!! Thanks so much... And it's not that I don't enjoy it. I kinda geek out over coins honestly. Its just that there's to much I don't know yet so I like to do a check in with more experienced minds before I go wildy chasing
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