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1896 Barber Quarter: Straight Clip Planchet, PMD, Cut?

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 Posted 11/30/2023  07:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
I think it is too worn to know for sure.
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 Posted 11/30/2023  5:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sharks to your friends list
Great pictures, too bad so worn.
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 Posted 12/01/2023  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
First impression, I do not think it is a straight clip.
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 Posted 12/01/2023  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Even in hand I doubt a clip can be clearly corrorborated.
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 Posted 12/06/2023  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
fwiw, the coin arrived today. As understood, there is a considerable amount of wear. Is there anything I should image closely?
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 Posted 12/06/2023  2:18 pm  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list
Can you provide a picture like the first picture of the clip on this site? https://boards.ngccoin.com/topic/43...ed-planchet/
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 Posted 12/06/2023  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list
Actually, I see something else too: can you take the diameter of the coin? Between the right side of the N in UNITED to the other side of the coin, roughly to the C in AMERICA?
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 Posted 12/07/2023  05:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stoneman227 to your friends list
With the circulation wear of the coin , any Blakesley effect opposite the anomaly or Smith effect at the anomaly may have disappeared.
The circulation wear is also curiously related to the anomaly. The obverse seems more worn and the reverse more protected at the "clip".
Is there anything to see on the edge of the coin at the anomaly.
A possible cause could have been a hit to the edge of the coin. Flattening that part of the edge and dragging/bulging the displaced metal towards the reverse. This would expose the obverse design elements and protect the reverse design elements at the point of damage,to ,and from ,circulation wear.
Just something to consider.
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 Posted 12/07/2023  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
My first thought was that someone was doing a little silver mining, i.e. "clipping" in the PMD sense. I also noted the difference in wear - protected near the clip on the reverse but more worn there on the obverse. So I wonder if the coin is slightly bent there from the clipping.
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 Posted 12/07/2023  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
I will work on some photos this evening. The only calipers I have are analog (mechanical) drafting compasses, so I will have to check with my metal working and machinist friends to see if I can borrow a digital calipers.

I will say now, the coin is worn. The reeds are gone around the perimeter, except as faint memories.
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 Posted 12/07/2023  1:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tunnioc to your friends list
Weight?
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 Posted 12/09/2023  1:38 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
Still waiting on the calipers. I haven't forgotten about this coin, but I've been really busy with holiday prep (lights are up!). My coin stuff has been mostly online, unless it can fit in my little axial photo box.
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 Posted 05/04/2024  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
Now that I know more about clipped planchets, I decided to revisit this coin. It doesn't seem like anything further could be concluded on this one (although I am always willing to be proved wrong). Whatever removed the missing metal, the heavy circulation wear has erased the cause.

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 Posted 05/04/2024  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Agree, you're unlikely to be sure at this point.
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