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1995 Lincoln Cent. How Would This Grade?

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 Posted 11/30/2023  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list
I am going to leave this one alone for a bit. At least until I am able to put up some photos that are adequate. Until I can do that, it helps none of us. Makes we wish teleportation was an option.
This will go into my TPG bunch. About to sent some out. I be fine with a MS65 for a 1995 FS-101.
In the meantime, I will be spending some time in the photo forum.
Thanks to all of you for your input. Sorry to have bothered all of you with the inferior images. I'll get back here I improve my skills in photography before submitting any coins for grading consideration. No problem with close ups on the scope but color is never what is seen. Only details.
Thanks again!
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 Posted 12/01/2023  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
these coins are very challenging to photograph even the best photographers have a challenge with them not sure why, but its not your fault. I think lighting has a lot to do with it. you can't use any overhead light or flash as it alters the surfaces and what we see.
dont give up keep trying.

based on these photos it does have a shot at 65RD. I don't think it can go higher than that though
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 Posted 12/01/2023  4:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list
Thanks panzaldi. I will keep working on it an revive this when I get better results.
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 Posted 12/01/2023  11:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
That's a DDO #1 - nice coin!

Try moving your light further away from the coin. I think it's oversaturating the pictures. It's easy to pick out every little flaw and probably not an accurate representation to what you see in hand. That said...

The coin has some normal strike issues prevalent in most Zincolns. I see split plating, especially in the fields near the rims. There appears to be a broken linear plating bubble below the A. My biggest concern/distraction are the rims. For these that's actually the first place the coins wear. Right obverse right field between 12-5 oc looks like it met some sandpaper. Looks to have a stain above LIBERTY and several other minor ticks. Minor reverse fly specks.

The reverse is quite nice, minimal column/steps ticks, very well struck. So well, it tore away metal near the rim creating splits. You can see the radial die flow lines where the metal was stretched. Even without better pictures... 63RD
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 Posted 12/01/2023  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
For comparison, I believe mine to be a 65RD coin. Ignore the airtite scratches in the middle of the obverse pic and the reverse.






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I would like to ask you to reference PCGS cert#43246666 of this same coin and rationalize to me how the dinged up rims pull a MS68. Just as distracting as the impairment on my example, no? If not,please explain so I can improve my observations.


I'll chime in here. The PCGS coin has absolutely blazing/reflecting luster, extremely clean fields and the devices are virtually free of hits. Amazingly, it has no distracting plating bubbles or splitting. Some minor stains are brought out in the pictures due to the extreme light. Start at 70 and -1 minor distractions and -1 for the rim dings = MS-68.

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 Posted 12/02/2023  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
badthads photos are what you are looking for so you have something to compare to.
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 Posted 12/16/2023  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list
I've been trying to work on my images. Any help here? Getting quite close to in-hand as I see it.



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 Posted 12/17/2023  04:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Photo is de-cent, ha-ha-ha
It looks a bit tilted,is that a straight on shot or tilted a bit?
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 Posted 12/17/2023  07:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list

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Photo is de-cent, ha-ha-ha
It looks a bit tilted,is that a straight on shot or tilted a bit?
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I leveled both the support base and camera.
De-cent enough to grade?
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 Posted 12/17/2023  09:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
you're still using overhead light. can't do that. photos are better though. based on these MS64RD sounds about right
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De-cent enough to grade?

I do not think the pros can give you an accurate grade with these pics but can give you an idea. Practice those photos, it is not an easy thing for most of us including me.
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 Posted 12/17/2023  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Much better pictures, I think it's closer to 65RD, for sure no less than 64 IMO.
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you're still using overhead light. can't do that. photos are better though. based on these MS64RD sounds about right
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panzaldi, your opinions here are always appreciated by me. If not overhead, how is lighting positioned? Are you able to show me an example?
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 Posted 12/18/2023  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
these one are tougher to photograph for some reason. I think the last photos are pretty good though and close enough to get close to a grade. what I would do is move the coin to different areas in your house without any overhead lights. indirect light is best and diffused light is probably the best. I think there are many posts out there on photo coins if you want to take the time searching for them. you can try placing the coin on something that is slightly angled like even 5-10% is enough and then shoot straight on. if youre using a phone you can adjust brightness after if needed. its trial and error and don't feel bad as most postings have the same challenge. its so much more difficult grading just by photos but its all we have to go on so comments can only be as good as they are. hope that helps. don't give up I think you're in the right direction.
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