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Pillar of the Community
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Brandmeister, thanks for that link. None of these varieties seems to be a complete match, but I'll be able to evaluate much better once I have the coin in hand. I will post new pics then. Nobody has mentioned the obverse rim at about 10. I can't tell if this is damage of some sort - this was my only hesitation on the coin. That said, it was just a darned interesting coin that I couldn't resist at the price.
Edited by Blastenpene4
12/01/2023 09:53 am
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Pillar of the Community
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numismatic student is right on - great background. Cool Cud for sure. I'd have this at 53-55 range. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Easy AU-55 leaning towards 58.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Adding that the 1865 nickel was not the first use of nickel in U.S. coinage. That came in 1856 when the copper-nickel small cents replaced the then ubiquitous large cents, also due to the efforts of Joseph Wharton. The 1865 3cn is the first white metal nickel coin issued as regular coinage. The 1856-1864 copper-nickel cents were copper-colored but contained 12% nickel or less than half of the 25% in the 3cn. But this coin is clearly the precursor of what we all know as the U.S. 5c nickel.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Either AU-58 or MS-62. It's a really nice looking coin and tough to tell from these photos whether we're looking at strike issues or some trace rub.
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Pillar of the Community
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I'll post pictures when I have it in hand. I'm also curious to check out the apparent die doubling at the top of the "III," as Brandmeister commented on. Doesn't look like Machine Doubling, but pictures are pretty hard to evaluate. |
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There is also something protruding on the leftmost I of III, where the left crossbar intersects the trunk. Although that might be a die clash remnant? Hard to say.
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Bedrock of the Community
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out of focus reverse photo, shadowing from lighting. its tough enough grading these due to the alloy and strike issues.
AU58 or MS62. can't decide without sharper photos
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Pillar of the Community
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I wanted to update this thread. This coin disappeared off of USPS tracking on December 5. The dealer very graciously immediately offered me a refund, but I said I'd wait and see if it turned up. Tracking was updated today, December 17, so I may actually get it after all. No idea where it was for nearly two weeks. I'll post pictures when it arrives.
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Edited by Blastenpene4
12/23/2023 12:05 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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MS61. Nice.  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Lots of luster but signs of circulation. AU-58.
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Bedrock of the Community
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the area in the middle of the columns imo would be damage UNC details( PMD) |
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Pillar of the Community
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The area between the columns of 1 and 2 on the reverse is interesting. Very hard to get a picture of it. Makes me realized how easy it would be for a seller of shoot past this. In hand that area shows undisturbed luster and is rather difficult to see, panzaldi. Note reverse pictures 2-5. Makes me wonder if it is not PMD of any sort. This said, I bought this coin for the Cud and the heavy die clash. Thanks for all the input. Edited by Blastenpene4
12/24/2023 5:17 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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could be lighting, could be angle. in hand is probably the only way to tell
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