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Thanks everyone! I was trying to use PCGS Photograde, along with auction photos from Heritage Auctions and the descriptions in "A Guide Book of Flying Eagle and Indian Head cents" by Richard Snow (3rd Ed.). The details in the picture look better than the F-12 but maybe in line with F-15 or VF-30 based on the auction pictures and Photograde. I wonder if there are one or two defining characteristics that best differentiate F from VF for this series? Thanks again! ~Andi |
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Looks legit at first glance. I could see VF.
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That's not a coin I would call low grade. Very Fine.
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to the CCF Not a low grade coin in my judgement, I say VF-details environmental damage. Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art |
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@AndisCoins, The first thing that you should be looking at it the word LIBERTY on the headband. Yours is full, complete and fairly bold along with a complete bottom line on the headband. An F-12 or even F-15 would not be as clear. In distinguishing a VF coin from an XF coin you should pay attention to the lower ribbon and if it shows clear separation from the hair curls. Your coin almost shows separation but not quite in my opinion which is why I graded it VF. Nice key date coin for your collection, Congrats!
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Thanks @MisterT, that is a very helpful description. Based on your explanation, I'm assuming that the following 1906 would be VF: (VF?) 1906 Indian Head cent - Obverse  Whereas the following 1862 would be XF: (XF?) 1862 Indian Head cent - Obverse  I'm showing the obverse here because that was the pertinent part based on @MisterT's description - I'm aware that the reverse could change things. Please also let me know if I'm allowed to post multiple coins in one thread or if I'm supposed to make a new thread for each coin. |
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To me, both of these are high VFs, with the latter cleaned.
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I would give the 1906 a grade of VF-20. The 1862 displays XF details but you must also consider that there is some environmental damage (corrosion) and also a previous cleaning so the grade for this is XF details- cleaned and corroded.
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Bedrock of the Community
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To CCF! The 1909 is VF. Errers and Varietys.
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i'd call it high VF details (cleaned), reverse looks like its in the XF range
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For a VF, I would be looking for more distinct veins on the wreath and clearer feather details on the headdress. The "Liberty" could be a little stronger as well. It looks more like "wear" than "Environmental Damage" to me. Sure it has a few dings and wear that are expected for a well circulated, very old copper cent. Does not appear that it has been cleaned and yes, it appears very real. I do agree that you have a very nice low mintage coin which some call a key date and others refer to it as a semi-key date due to the popularity and highly collected 1877. I have years of researching and specifically collecting the Indian Head cent and am very particular in my personal preferences. You have a nice coin that would pass the muster to me for a 1909-S!!  Enjoy! |
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High VF low XF range. Toning is not very attractive but I think it grades straight.
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