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I don't think it is abusing the system at all. The coins are posted in an organized fashion to make it not confusing. Also a great way to see lots of coins and see others grading opinions to hone your skills. I appreciate the content.
MS-64
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'll say MS-64.
Errers and Varietys.
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Perhaps consider limiting these groups of coins to once every few days? That way, someone posting a single coin won't have their thread "buried". That is an excellent idea. I must admit that it was the fact that your submissions overwhelmed some daily listings which was what truly bothered me. My apologies. |
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64, strong double clash with transfer (a favorite of mine)
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Pillar of the Community
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Avg. 64. Typical weak strike over the ear from the O mint.
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01/05/2024 3:13 pm
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Final mintmark for the 83-Os. No RPM here.  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Looks like the seller didn't transfer the VAM-4 coin. If you were trying to find the variety, it doesn't look like there is any further need. Thanks to those who tried to help.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Could someone please explain "strong double clash with transfer"?
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In my own, personal words:
On the reverse, there are two die clashes one by the top of the wreath on the right side and the line under the "n" in "In God We Trust". In essence the design of the obverse has been transferred onto the reverse when the dies collided without a coin. By the wreath you can see the back of head from the obverse and by "In" you can see the neckline. The transfer portion refers to the fact that the reverse also transferred onto the obverse sheets you can see a line jutting out sww by the neck.
I'm sure someone will provide the more technical explanation.
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Thanks for the info - learning a lot here.
I'm going to need better eyeglasses to look at my coins this closely :)
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Bedrock of the Community
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i can see it at MS64
i don't have a problem with the number of coins posted. it allows folks to compare very close grades in the MS61 to MS64 range. sometimes its a little much when there are like 20 posts though
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Bedrock of the Community
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Pretty solid explanation! In terms of VAM, "transfer" means that the clash was strong enough that part of a letter (usually the 'n' from 'iN god') is partially visible, often a bit below the clash line on the obverse chin/neck V (where the chin meets the neck) and along the front of the neck. There can also be letter transfer to the right of the hair, below the point where the Phrygian cap meets the hair, and there are a couple other possible spots as well, most notably below the eagle's tail feathers. One of the most well-known examples of a clash with letter transfer is the 1891-O VAM 1A series (1A1, 1A2, 1A3) where "ER" from the obverse LIBERTY was transferred to the reverse die below the eagle's tail feathers, and the "O" mint mark and "D" from DOLLAR on the reverse are visible on the obverse below the "I" in PLURIBUS between the wheat leaves. It's worth a look on VAMWorld if you'd like to see examples. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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I am also at MS64, although not a fan. Don't like the weak strike, it's distracting.
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Don't like the weak strike, it's distracting. NumisEd. kust an FYI, this is a very typical strike for an 83(O) they are almost always soft |
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