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BadThad, What are the tell tail signs to show it was minted at the WP mint? John1  |
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I don't get it  Quote:
The West Point Bullion Depository was used by the United States Mint to strike cents in 1974 due to high demand1. By the end of the year, West Point had contributed 128,957,523 cents toward Philadelphia's reported mintage of 4,232,140,5232. The West Point cents carry no mintmark and as far as we know, cannot be differentiated from coins struck at Philadelphia |
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Another tidbit... In 1974, the West Point Depository began making Lincoln cents to ease production demands on the other mints. But since the facility wasn't an official mint, the West Point pennies carried no mint mark, making them indistinguishable from coins made at the Philadelphia Mint. Lincoln cents continued to be produced at West Point through 1986. |
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1974 Aluminum cents struck at West Point and Denver all appear to be large date.
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Still no conclusion to "The Mystery" here.
Clearly it's not an aluminum cent.
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This is a LDS small date 1974. Why did they have a small date version? I contend they may have made those dies in Philly and shipped them to WP as an "insider trick" to internally ID the WP coins. It was also known that WP overused their dies because of the pressure to get coins out. That resulted in a good number of small date LDS coins with blazing luster and matte-like finishes in the fields. The "Philly" no MM mintage is reported at 4.2 billion cents in total. Of that, 833 million were reported as being minted at WP. This means ~20% of total cent production for 1974 came out of WP or 1 in 5 coins came out of WP which roughly equates with the ratio I've seen for the small date. IMO, there is a high probability that all of the small dates came from WP. Tunnioc is the only one that mentioned the small or large date varietiy, GREAT JOB!  Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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Most people don't know this: Quote:
Strangely, however, this obverse hub was replaced with another one midway through 1974, resulting in two subtypes for the Lincoln cents dated 1974. This hub, too, was used to sink dies for all the mints, resulting in a total of six collectable cent varieties for 1974. I think WP was the test guinea pig for the small date. They needed the dies so I'm betting they got the first round of dies. Quote:
How can we prove it BadThad? Impossible but we can certainly speculate and discuss it. From Lange's old 2004 article, there are some gaps that could be filled in IMO. Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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How about a comparison? I think the differences are significant. LARGE DATE SMALL DATE Edited by BadThad
01/15/2024 9:52 pm
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I would like to read Mikes' take on this matter. John1 |
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I would like to read Mikes' take on this matter. I'm interested any takes on it, especially folks like Mike. I'm thinking of writing my own book on Memorial cents in retirement. There's some great info in other books and online, I'd like to see it consolidated and then add my own takes. |
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Could it be, the 1982 Small Date cents were also struck at West Point.  |
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Could it be, the 1982 Small Date cents were also struck at West Point. I guess, but the 1982 d small date copper is the one everyone's looking for. That one was minted in Denver. Edited by sickpuppy78501
01/16/2024 9:18 pm
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Lots of interesting arguments for the "Mint" Origin of some One Cents, but no
really substantial evidence as of yet linking anything to West Point specifically.
I do enjoy the reading posted so far! I always enjoy a good mystery.
Small Date 1982-D & P Zinc & Copper coins perhaps could have West Point minted.....
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01/17/2024 12:57 pm
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A very interesting topic!   |
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