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Bedrock of the Community
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I'm thinking AU details.
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
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Welp, that is a counterfeit. Hope you didn't get burned.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Please elaborate, @jacrispies. Please be specific on why this is a counterfeit, would really like to learn.  Edited by Coinfrog
01/29/2024 8:11 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'm reasonably certain this is not an original coin. Not 100%, but I'd say better than average. It appears to be a cast copy. The voids on the obverse such as the large pit in Liberty's right arm resemble casting voids. Tool marks appear to be to right of the date, and the date has issues at the 1. The overall appearance is rough. On the reverse, there are what appear to be tool marks throughout the wing edge just behind the neck and above the left leg talons. Those are not high relief areas of the coin, which leads me to believe they are tool marks and not scratches since they do not extend across the high relief surfaces. The complete lack of detail on the eagle's left leg is at odds with other sharper areas of the coin. There is also a flaw left of the H in HALF that resembles a casting bubble or defect of some sort. Overall, the coin just does not "look" right compared to known examples in the XF-AU range (my own example isn't quite so lofty, so not as much to compare.) Some of these issues could be due to environmental damage or PMD, but taken as a whole, the coin is suspect and merits a closer look. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis Edited by paralyse
01/29/2024 9:20 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Very interesting, thanks.
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Pillar of the Community
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The following genuine date is the die that the OP coin appears to copy. The OP coin has a number of problems: the stars are not formed properly, the sharpness on the date is poor, many bumps, and the mint mark looks off. The coin is a counterfeit. Genuine example  OP  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Rim thickness, fonts, detail of the stars in the flag, and the boldness of the sun were giveaways for me.
Now that we know it is fake, check out the first post again and see how weak and unusual the luster is.
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I agree this coin doesn't look geniune after looking at all the issues presented. Thanks everyone for their input and giving me clue's to what I should be looking out for in the future.
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Bedrock of the Community
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what this tells us looking at these coins (similar to the 50 LC recently posted by Blastenpene4) that we need to take a little more time looking closely at the coin if the photos permit it. it also tells us how important clear photos with proper lighting is paramount. if you just glanced at this coin you would just pass by all these markers. at least we have paralyse's eyes to point them out  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Rim thickness, fonts, detail of the stars in the flag, and the boldness of the sun were giveaways for me.
Good catch on the rim thickness as it is noticeable when looking at a lot of 1927 S. @jmc15john, the font on the 7 in the date is an easy tell as the top serif is not there on the OP example. See blue circle on 7 below. I hope you can get your money back form the seller.  Edited by Slider23
01/30/2024 12:09 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Really an informative thread, thanks to all.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I rely on my gut, when something seems off when I first look at it, I start looking at all the details closer. Rim, lettering, design details, color, etc..
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New Member
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@Slider23, Thankfully the seller accepts returns. Just got this packaged up and taking it to the post office in a bit.
Thanks again everyone.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Glad you are able to return that one John.
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Pillar of the Community
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Awesome, happy that you can get a refund!
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