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Pillar of the Community
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Agree. Toning is very nice and adds to the appeal IMO.
I'm at MS63+. Maybe have it regraded by NGC/PCGS?
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Pillar of the Community
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@sickpuppy.... When it comes to Morgans, they start losing appeal (to me) at MS63. Here's what I expect a 62 to look like.... https://www.ebay.com/itm/374943833982 so you're suggesting the OP's coin, looks worse than this? |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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 and i'll add to coin rejector's comment regarding MS63 coins. that grade is probably the most widest criteria and allowances. just because a coin looks like this one from an eye appeal standpoint, some folks find them quite appealing like Jakes Coins. when assessing a coin. from a grading standpoint, an MS63 coin with lower eye appeal may be dropped to MS62 by a TPG. even though they look no where near like what the MS62 coin link posted by coin rejector . the main reason for the grade drop is value. one must keep in mind that a TPG grade is really assigned based on what they feel the coin could sell for. if its less than the average for the grade they will lower it. other than the toning on the OP's coin, there are no signs of circulation which would be seen around the ear and the tops of the ear itself, on the highest points of the CAP and cotton balls, typically the nose as well. on the reverse, the eagles neck and breast, talons, bows and tips of the wings. I'm not seeing that anywhere thus my grade of MS63 with a shot at 64 since there are only a couple marks on the cheek. underneath that toning the luster is hiding. to determine if the coin was closer to 64 I would need this one in hand. to see if there are any areas will broken luster which is difficult to determine using these photos. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The holder somewhat resembles the old Blanchard slabs. I would grade your coin a strong 64 with a good shot at 65. Quote:
the coin has a lot of field spots and little scratches, which should knock it out of mint state in my opinion. So I thought AU, but I figured if I was looking to buy an AU coin and saw this, I'd pass it up. It's not what I would expect an AU coin to look like. @sickpuppy78501 You need to know how the TPGs grade. You cannot create your own grading standards because they are useless and a waste of everyone's time. Here are some beginner tips: 1. MS coins have no wear. 2. Luster is removed entirely around XF-40. 3. You always strike out with a questionable color designation. Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I don't see any wear at all, which strikes me as odd but that's just me. But the coin has a lot of field spots and little scratches, which should knock it out of mint state in my opinion. sickpuppy. marks & scratches will not take a coin out of MS range. they will however lower the grade, this is why there are MS60 through MS68 grades. luster and marks will place the coin in one of these boxes. everyone is at a difference level in grading skills and just add this to your knowledge base for the future. hope that helps |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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with what he said. |
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Valued Member
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Hey all, I have an update. I broke down and sent the '84-O in to PCGS, mainly for sickpuppy's sake. Results are below. Thanks to everyone for your opinions and insight, it was very helpful as always. Ok, here she is:  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Nice result for you! Congratulations!  |
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
25467 Posts |
Sweet! Congratulations, UnimpossibIe!
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Pillar of the Community
Sweden
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Thank you for update, a beauty
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Congratulations Unimpossible!  Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2860 Posts |
Very nice, congrats! Thanks for the update.
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Valued Member
United States
343 Posts |
You guys are the best! If anyone is interested in more grading fun, you can also check out my 1888-O Hot Lips post. I'll be updating with two different grading results on that one tomorrow!
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Bedrock of the Community
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