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1951-D Wheat Penny- D/S Or D/D? (Coin #1)

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 Posted 02/07/2024  2:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Marv65 to your friends list

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I wonder if this wasn't a matter of a damaged punch used to make the mintmark or partially broken post on the die.


It maybe a broken post/die chip but it may also be a type of progression state of RPM 022. Although mintmark may be a bit too low for 022

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 Posted 02/07/2024  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list
MM is too low for #6.

The MM in your overall obverse pic and the detail shot don't look the same.

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 Posted 02/07/2024  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
I'm only seeing a filled mint mark.
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Thanks everyone
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 Posted 02/07/2024  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list
MM position is wrong for 006. Look at 036 on copper coins. Looks exactly like it but the position is wrong also.
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 Posted 02/07/2024  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list
I see no OMM or RPM, just die chips.



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 Posted 02/07/2024  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
I think it is just Die Chip. I do not see fit with D or S.
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 Posted 02/08/2024  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list
Die chips don't usually have such shapes and characteristics. The pic shared by Marve65 is more typical of a chip. This is why this coin is controversial, as it does not fit with the typical chip. IMO it is a die gouge in an unfortunate position.
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Die chips don't usually have such shapes and characteristics. The pic shared by Marve65 is more typical of a chip. This is why this coin is controversial, as it does not fit with the typical chip. IMO it is a die gouge in an unfortunate position.
Alright, Ray, I give to the fact the the two lower "things" may be gouges but the upper area definitely looks like a die chip and at the end of the day, I see no evidence of an OMM or RPM and even if there was, no way to prove it with just this example, there would have to be earlier stages to even have a chance.
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Upper area? What I see is a fairly normal D mintmark, but there is a raised curve across the center. The upper/left area is incuse, as is the lower/right area. Only the center "bar" is raised. This is why I am not thinking this is a chip, but a gouge.

I also don't see evidence this is a die variety. If the "bar" had been created with a D mintmark punch, then we'd expect it to extend outside the main mintmark at a fair height above the field.
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Upper area? What I see is a fairly normal D mintmark, but there is a raised curve across the center. The upper/left area is incuse, as is the lower/right area. Only the center "bar" is raised. This is why I am not thinking this is a chip, but a gouge.
This is what I'm talking about. I cannot see anything but a die chip in the upper inside part of the mm, the other "things" I don't know.


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Are you saying that area is raised? I don't think so. The shadows indicate it is incuse. The only raised area is the middle ridge.
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 Posted 02/09/2024  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list
I don't think so, sir. The "chip" I see looks to layer over the mm somewhat, which would make it raised. I could be wrong though, definitely wouldn't be the first time.
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I may be wrong as well. I'm just judging from the photo evidence.

@PaulyD, can you clarify this? Is the post broken-out on the upper part, like what is shown by @Marve65 in his post above, or is the post complete but with a raised ridge going across it?
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