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1865 3c - Never Seen A Repunched Date Like This

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 Posted 05/01/2024  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
Here is an example of my own, an 1865 (PCGS MS63)

The dies were rotated 180 degrees (medal turn orientation) and then clashed.

Note the central strike weakness on the reverse (flat lines in III) and obverse (flat hair and ear) that resulted from the clash.

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 Posted 05/01/2024  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list
I pulled the trigger for $43 delivered. Just too odd to pass up.
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 Posted 05/01/2024  2:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
I would have bought it all day long at $43.
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 Posted 05/01/2024  5:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list
I'll see if I can get better pictures when it arrives. I felt like the dealer was just about giving it away. Maybe he thought that was wear and not a weak strike.
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 Posted 05/01/2024  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list

Quote:
In the shape of the top of an 8?


Yes.

Not an error, just a small Retained Cud as the die continued to a terminal state. Here is a slightly earlier state, but the cracks match perfectly:

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 Posted 05/01/2024  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
Grade wise, I would wager a guess at AU details. Looks a little wipey. The clashes and LDS are neat nonetheless.
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 Posted 05/01/2024  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
I love the off-center strike. That's truly epic.
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 Posted 05/01/2024  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list
I think you may have the answer, jacrispies. File marks by "ES" in STATES match up as does the slightly rotated die clash. Similar weak center strike. Start of the curve under the 6 very similar. No dot to the right of the 5, but I'm buying your theory. I'm convinced that these two coins were struck by the same die, mine later than yours. Thanks
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 Posted 05/01/2024  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
The crack starting at the U in UNITED matches as well. Would be fun to search around for even later die state examples, perhaps the Cud is fully formed.
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 Posted 05/01/2024  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list
They had a good many problems with dies breaking in 1865 apparently - my other 3c. A bit off center as well.

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05/01/2024 9:14 pm
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 Posted 05/01/2024  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
Man, that's a whale of a Cud!
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 Posted 05/07/2024  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list
Coin arrived today. Just an interesting piece that I couldn't pass up for $43. I can't get any feel for a grade since the strike is so bad. I'm thinking probably an old obverse cleaning. Reverse looks to have some luster remaining. What a bizarre Cud!


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 Posted 05/07/2024  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
Agreed, but it's still a super neat coin, and you paid more than a fair price for it.
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 Posted 05/08/2024  09:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
there is some crazy stuff happening with this coin. new photos are better. the coin may have been wiped at some point (jacrispies comment on details) tough call on AU or MS like I stated before and even with the new photos I can't get a good handle it. this is one you'll need to assess in hand. a couple grades are possible

AU details (cleaned)
AU55
UNC details (cleaned)
MS62

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