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Now Here Is A Reason To Hoard Copper!

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 Posted 04/23/2009  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list
Wow, they almost sound like capitalists over there.
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 Posted 04/23/2009  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
I agree with eaglefoot, they are simply stockpiling for the future while prices are down....they are really smart people, give them some credit.
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 Posted 04/23/2009  4:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
Well, on the subject of China's industry--I give them a lot of credit for where they are today. Very good businesspeople.
On the other hand, I'm very skeptical of extrapolating the last few years of the metal markets on the future.
There's actual consumption by industry, then there's how the avg. joe investor thinks that will impact price.
As people like Gxseries have noted many times, predicting actual use against supply is very complicated.
Copper is not a bullion metal--its physical properties suit it best for industrial uses.
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 Posted 04/23/2009  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Davest to your friends list
the industrial uses you speak of may have something to do with power generation in the long term. They may have becom aware of the amount of sulpher dioxide produced in their coal fired plants and are basically thinking green maybe 50 years down the line. Copper does seem to be the most economical mover of electricity and heat that I know of.

Wadda you think?
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 Posted 04/23/2009  5:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list

I don't think they have any intention of "selling" what they're buying right now at all.....they actually intend to "use" and feel they'll "need" it for many things as a growing/emerging superpower.

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China getting out of U.S. dollars and buying copper at a rate far exceeding amounts they can use in the near future.

I think they fully intend on using all of it and more as their appetite for Copper and many other materials will increase like a starving beast as they grow into their unknowable capabilities.
It may hurt our feelings in 50-80 years, but China may very well grow into the most powerful Superpower the world has ever seen !
But that "appetite" with that size of population base can also consume possibly more raw materials than the Earth can provide too !
If anybody's noticed .....in the last 10,000 years, Earth's human population has been STEADILY increasing.....NOT "decreasing"......We consume more and more and more of natural resources, etc. And China could one day be the BIGGEST CONSUMER OF THEM ALL !
They may buy the Amazon basin region 50 years from now .... just for the trees !! ....
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 Posted 04/23/2009  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list

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China getting out of U.S. dollars and buying copper at a rate far exceeding amounts they can use in the near future.


Not really yet... they are selling t-notes, but at a very slow pace to not shock the currency markets and lead to economic warfare.

So... what's copper used for? All I know is wiring, but any other uses?
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 Posted 04/23/2009  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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So... what's copper used for? All I know is wiring, but any other uses?
Lots of things!
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 Posted 04/23/2009  5:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parklane64 to your friends list
China is trying to finish electrifying their country.
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 Posted 04/24/2009  08:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rggoodie to your friends list
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 Posted 04/24/2009  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DNA to your friends list
One advantage to a 'copper standard' would be that it
would be practical for individuals in 'third-world'
countries to hold copper bullion.

Also, individuals in countries with a currency being
kept by their government at an artificially low value
could buy copper bullion, someplace like...
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 Posted 04/24/2009  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hockingzig to your friends list
From what I have read recently, China is pushing for a floating currency for international transactions, backed by a "basket" of six commodities, gold,silver,copper and 3 others unnamed(at least in the articles I have seen). They are very much against one nation's(insert United States of America here)currency being the reserve currency for the world, especially since it is fiat currency. China wants to be sure any transactions can be paid in commodities of some sort and that the value of the currency will reflect the value of those resources worldwide. Ironically, they are"opposed" to artificial manipulation of currencies(except their own of course).
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 Posted 04/24/2009  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list
Wasn't that the whole deal about making the SDR the global currency?
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 Posted 04/24/2009  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hockingzig to your friends list
Yep!
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 Posted 04/24/2009  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Davest to your friends list
what's the SDR? Haven't heard of that.
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