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Valued Member
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Quick question, aren't coins made by a die that has a coin stuck on it produce incused/ reversed lettering?
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pieces Brockage errors Brockage errors are the result of a planchet and a normally struck coin being in the coining chamber at the same time. The two items may overlap each other, rest on top of each other, or be of different sizes. There is one exception - the "brockage second strike" - which is the result of a planchet and a brockage coin being in the coining chamber together. When a coin sticks to the upper or lower die a number of brockage strikes may occur from the same coin (which at this stage is known as a "die cap"). The first strike from the "capped die" will result in a "mirror brockage" that will exhibit a perfect incuse mirror image of the design. As the cap continues to strike coins it will distort and spread outward wrapping itself around the shank of the die looking very much like a soda bottle cap or in later stages like a thimble. This will result in the designs of the coin closest to the rim eventually no longer appearing on the brockage strikes that result from the distorted cap. Great Britain Elizabeth Young Head Penny First-Strike Mirror Brockage (Photo courtesy of Ken Potter / Coin courtesy of Mark Longas). https://conecaonline.org/glossary-o...riety-terms/  |
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If those other two coins (Elizabe and the 2nd one below it) are brockage,but feature incused reversed letters/devices... why are incused/ reversed lettering being used as an argue against the posted Lincoln Cent being brockage? Why are incused/ reversed letters evidence of vise job in one case and not the other? Please forgive my confusion |
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Valued Member
United States
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Out of curiosity, what type of vise or hammer is able to weave another coin into lincoln's bust/ jacket like some kind of a basket weave as shown here?! How was this achieved?!  |
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Out of curiosity, what type of vise or hammer is able to weave another coin into lincoln's bust/ jacket like some kind of a basket weave as shown here?! How was this achieved?! |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Duplicate topic. You got your answers on the first thread.
Errers and Varietys.
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A brockage happens when a coin "sticks" to one of the dies; that coin then effectively "becomes the die" for a second coin. That second coin will be a brockage, and will have a perfectly normal design on one side and a mirror-incuse version of that same side on the other side.
You cannot get a mixed-denomination brockage, like the image of a dime appearing on a cent or vice-versa. The easiest way to get the image of a dime appearing on a cent is to use a vice to squeeze a stack of coins together.
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As already made clear by multiple experts, it's simply a damaged coin. Quote:
How was this achieved?! You can find a thousand things on this coin to ask about - it's still a man made damaged coin. |
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One thing to point out here is that in the examples you posted above, is that the entire design of the original coin is NOT present you can only see the reversed design of the brockage because it is blocking the die and it could not imprint the intended design on the planchet.
In YOUR cent you can see BOTH designs on the coin.
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@1966, since best practice is to only start one thread per coin, I've merged your three threads into this one. If you have further questions about your coin, please ask them here. Thx!
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Pillar of the Community
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Just in case you missed it..  |
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Tacc, hehee! The picture of that vise is very clear. Hehee. I got it. Finally sunk in. Hehee. Understood.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 Vise jobs are commonly seen here. To me the easiest way to identify one is the backwards lettering, on top of/next to regular lettering. |
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