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Valued Member
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Clearly my pictures must suck; it has a lot more cartwheel than you're seeing.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The luster looks original to me. MS details, environmental damage.
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Valued Member
United States
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I took this coin to my local (very swanky) B&M to have it checked out. We ended up treating it with some Verdicare, it was very successful and anything green you saw before is off the coin now. Just carbon left there. The rest of the surfaces look exactly the same. Shop's opinion on the grade was either 63-64, on the fence between RB/RD, or MS details altered surfaces/questionable color. Not because of flat luster, because there isn't any, but because the tint is a little more pinkish than they like, suggesting it may have been dipped decades ago and the carbon we see has developed since then. All sounded believable to me, we'll see how NGC sees it. It does look a bit more like a Zincoln than most early copper, but I've seen that look get straight graded a ton of times, so there's no telling.
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06/29/2024 3:16 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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C'mon, after pics please!
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06/29/2024 5:12 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Please share the results. If the luster is better than your photos, as you indicate, it might straight grade.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Valued Member
United States
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My pictures were only hurting matters to begin with, but as you wish. If the obverse looks slightly brighter than the reverse, that's because it is, but the difference isn't large.   Edited by 1796NoPole
06/29/2024 5:29 pm
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I'm at 64 for the strike. 50-50 whether it will straight grade for color. I, too, hope it does.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hard to tell the true color since the new photos look different than the original pics. And the color of the 2x2 cardboard is different between the obverse and reverse, suggesting a change in the lighting. I still lean towards questionable color from a chemical treatment many years ago, for the reasons I stated before, but who knows what NGC will say. BTW, I like the strong clashes on the obverse!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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you're hurting my head. I think I'm sticking with MS62RB and hopefully those surfaces were not messed with
1796NoPole not sure you saw my question
is there some reason why you would go with NGC vs PCGS? just curious.
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Valued Member
United States
286 Posts |
I'm an employee, so I get submission credits. Also, my coworkers wouldn't let me live it down if I submitted to PCGS, LOL.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote:
my coworkers wouldn't let me live it down if I submitted to PCGS  no doubt. the only we are going to know is when it comes back. this one is good test of grading skills here. the spread is pretty wide Slider AU-Unc sharpness, color is questionable UNC details MS62RB MS63RD MS64 RB/RD |
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Valued Member
United States
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Came back Unc details, altered color. Seems legit to me. Definitely dipped, probably decades ago. Not cleaned. Compared to my MS64RD 1855 HC, the red on this is way less bright. No way to tell from a pic.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Bazinga! Got that one.
Still a nice coin.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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paralyse gets a gold star for today. there is no smilly for that so i'll give you a  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Zurie also nailed it!
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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