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Need Opinions On Grade V. PCGS Slab 1827 Capped Bust 10c

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 Posted 10/13/2024  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
I'll say EF.
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 Posted 10/13/2024  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
I'd say XF-40. Curious why the grade isn't on the label. When you post the grade, can you show us the slab, too?
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 Posted 10/13/2024  12:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list
https://www.pcgs.com/cert/37708658

Will somebody explain how the TPG made a decision that this coin was cleaned?

Is there something that they can see in hand that a picture would not depict?

Has anyone ever resubmitted a coin that was incorrectly categorized as being cleaned: and been successful? Are the probabilities low for this example that they would change their mind on the cleaning categorization?



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 Posted 10/13/2024  1:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list
This coin is a VF 30 in my opinion when looking at in person. The color of the coin, however, is significantly lighter and doesn't have the brown tone that the PCGS photo displays.
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 Posted 10/13/2024  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add adam126402 to your friends list
Would you please post new
Photos of what it really looks like in hand.
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 Posted 10/14/2024  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list
The true lighter colors of the coin came out when I took the photo outdoors instead of doing so in the basement with a 5000 K bulb:
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 Posted 10/14/2024  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list
I still cannot understand the reasoning of leaving the grade off of the slab:


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 Posted 10/14/2024  7:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Well that's a major disappointment.
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 Posted 10/14/2024  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list
And finally, the last photo shows the reason for the details. I personally would have said scratch or graffiti instead of cleaning. But the end result is the same no matter what. The slightly off brownish tint on the PCGS photo shouldn't have any bearing whatsoever on the grade in my opinion.
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 Posted 10/14/2024  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Thanks, makes sense now.
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 Posted 10/16/2024  10:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
someone was very picky assigning a details (cleaned) designation.

i had it at VF35 straight
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 Posted 10/16/2024  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
The thing about photos is you cannot twirl the coin around under a lamp. Despite the crustiness, but assessing the even color and other technical qualities, I bet if it was studied closely in hand one could point out cleaning hairlines covering both sides of the coin.


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I still cannot understand the reasoning of leaving the grade off of the slab:

There is a grading tier option if you only want a simple "genuine" instead of flaunting the issues on the front label. You rarely see it used.
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 Posted 10/16/2024  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
If studied closely and there are no hairlines at all, then congrats, you cherrypicked a TPG error. That's how some people make their living in the coin business.
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 Posted 10/19/2024  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Guess they called this one out for an old cleaning.
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