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1970 No S Dime? What Would You Grade It?

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 Posted 11/30/2024  10:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dykil93 to your friends list
Keith67 Yes, I know Proofs came in boxes and Proof from San Francisco came in proof set that is typically packaged in plastic cases and that certain cameos I am aware Philadelphia and Denver mints had came in Envelopes. I am aware the 1970 No S dime is extremely rare to find. I understand that 99.9% chance is I don't have a 1970 no S dime. I am just wondering how to tell the difference if an older penny proof like finish, no matter if cameo, deep cameo or just the normal mirror like finish is faded being in contact with plastic bagging. I know At one time in history the production of a cameo proof was an unintentional effect of a die that started to wear and had its fields refreshed by a careful polishing. The device of a worn die cannot be polished and so retains its frosty appearance. It's not clear where the 1970 no S dime was found, and it's known that that the 1970 no S Lincoln memorial was found in Philadelphia business strike mint sets because they ship the 1970s in the set. What if they shipped some dimes from San Francisco just like the penny's? How else would someone be able to tell the difference?
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 Posted 11/30/2024  10:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dykil93 to your friends list
Zurie, My question originally stemmed from why does it happen? The coloring is from oxidation of metal, but what is the hazing from, oxidation? The Lincoln 10970 no S was found in mint envelops from the Philadelphia mint, so Simple education on why this happens instead of an overly sarcastic remark about congratulating a person about a business strike is not insightful, as well assuming they watched a click bait. I know how rare it is, anyone can open the a PCGS internet page and look how rare. I'm not on here trying to sell the coin like a clickbait video suggests. Jumping to conclusions instead of talking to an individual would go a long way. Thank you for the response Zurie.
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 Posted 11/30/2024  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list
I believe most of the no s dimes came from the Mints Prestige Sets.

Even impaired proofs will still keep their reflective fields. Remember proof nickels are made of nickel where as proof dimes are clad. That might account for your thinking.
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 Posted 11/30/2024  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dykil93 to your friends list
Excellent info! Thank you for responding Greasy Fingers
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 Posted 11/30/2024  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tacc to your friends list
"Psycho-babble" is a medical term for speech or writing that uses psychological jargon, buzzwords, and esoteric language to create an impression of truth or plausibility.
That's what I gather from this OP's responses.
This OP's responses are an all too familiar pattern of behavior on this forum.
Really a shame.

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 Posted 11/30/2024  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
I agree that it's just a Business strike.
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 Posted 11/30/2024  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list
Sweetie, I ain't no troll. I've been here over 11 years and over 4,000 posts - while I'm a sarcastic SOB with a twisted sense of humor - I've never been accused of being a troll. In fact, I'm one of the rare individuals who researches and sources responses.



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 Posted 11/30/2024  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Some quite inappropriate comments from our newbie OP.
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 Posted 11/30/2024  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dykil93 to your friends list
No one like subliminal insults when someone is asking questions. Doesn't matter how many years you have in the passion, doesn't give you the credit to be mean by default in a sarcastic demeanor and expect laughs. The Business strikes from San Francisco confused me since they're included in a 10 piece mint set of P,D and S coins. so I asked about if a proof could get a haze looking glare because of packaging. Sorry if it doesn't seem like there much empathy and patience from some, and of course the curiosity to question things of interest by me. I do lack communication and so do some of you. Cheers and good hunting I guess
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 Posted 11/30/2024  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
I think that this topic has run its course here.

I believe that you have a business strike dime, it is not a proof, even the example from PCGS you posted is a business strike dime and not a proof (MS67)

I would kindly ask you to curb the abuse of other members here, I have read what BStrauss3 had posted, and I see no offensive comments in it.
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Dearborn haha I screenshotted literally a proof coin from PCGS proof section but ok, how do I remove this post?
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Just click the garbage can icon on the right above your post.
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 Posted 11/30/2024  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Seeker_101 to your friends list
I believe the OP is confusing uncirculated sets with proof sets. In 1966, the encased the SMS sets in a hard plastic case for the first time. When proofs were made again in 1968, they continued using the hard plastic cases for proofs coins ever since. Uncirculated sets, however, continue to be done in seals soft plastic packaging (bags).

To the OP: For a proof coins to look like a business strike, it has to be very heavily tarnished because even impaired proofs (proofs found in circulation) still tend to retain some of the mirror-like finish they had when they were struck.
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 Posted 11/30/2024  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list

Quote:
while I'm a sarcastic SOB with a twisted sense of humor

And here I thought I was the only one here........could there be others in hiding?
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