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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Looks like PMD to me. I can see displaced metal from the damage. Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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JLP: can you take pictures of the edge? That would confirm Pre-or Post Mint Damage
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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I think there is a chance this is a pre-strike planchet flaw that nearly closed up during striking or a strike-through of some sort. There is weakness in some of the lettering and the rim that cannot be explained by something like shears and PMD.  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looking at the first T in STATES and the rim just above it sure looks like damage to me. The top of the T is pushed outward above the adjoining A and the damage appears to have displaced and pushed metal beyond the rim of the coin. I've sure been wrong before though, interesting discussion regardless!
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New Member
Canada
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It looks like damage, but I'm not convinced of it...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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There is NO doubt that the planchet was damaged, but WHEN it was, in the striking procedure, is what we are trying to figure out... having struck detail in the damaged area is a good indication that that the damage is pre-strike, don't you think?
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New Member
 United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think that the new pictures tell us a few things:
1) The left base of the 1 is definitely struck over the damaged area-can't get around that
2) There is no metal displacement on the top of the reed under the Q-it looks perfect
3) the top of the reed at TA (STATES) is only slightly bent, in resistance to the enormous gash
4) no impacted displaced metal at the edges of the damage, all flattened in the strike
I know what it looks like, but what it is I think is something totally different.
I have something along these lines which I will share when I can take some good pictures; otherwise I'm done-have fun with it
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'll add this: the Large Cent has the same pattern of scraping as seen on the OP's at the L and Q... weird  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The dentil coil sprung Sorry to take this off topic.... but @Oldgrouchyguy, what do you believe a dentil coil is? The dentils were hand punched on the working dies. Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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To the OP, the coin is post strike. Whatever happened to it, scratched, scraped, sanded, filed, smashed, or dented, the displaced metal on the edge confirms post strike damage. The retaining collar that also contains the reeding would not have allowed that to happen. Additionally, if it was damaged pre strike, there would be much greater rounding and weakness along the edge of the unfilled areas. The rims and devices are sharp all the way up until the cuts.
Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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jacrispiess: Probably should have stated "a coil of denticles"; the impressions are under the Cud as well, and the impressions travel over the edge  Edited by Oldgrouchyguy
12/13/2024 6:02 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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But, really... Pre- AND Post-Strike Damage, and it's in Mint packaging? That's a stretch...
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote:jacrispiess: Probably should have stated "a coil of denticles"; the impressions are under the Cud as well, and the impressions travel over the edge Huh, ok I see what you mean. I am very interested in investigating this piece since mint anomaly bust halves are what I study most. If you want to discuss more about this coin, feel free to PM me or start a new topic. Quote:
But, really... Pre- AND Post-Strike Damage, and it's in Mint packaging? That's a stretch... That's why we shall settle with 100% post strike damage   Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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