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1804 Draped Bust Half Cent.

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 Posted 01/14/2025  05:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list
Well I pulled the trigger on this one and now I own it. It went a bit higher than I expected yet I feel I still did OK. I will add some photos here after it's in hand.
After submitting this one for your opinions I did a little comparison shopping based on your consensus. Here are a couple of examples I found on ebay. A PCGS XF40 and a PCGS XF45. Both appear to have more wear than the the one in question. However the spike is more well defined.
I would like to know your thoughts on this.


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The XF40 has the same Retained Cud across LIBERTY.
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 Posted 01/14/2025  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnjkedel to your friends list
I'm in the VF details group... almost XF.
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 Posted 01/14/2025  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
VF Details. It does look like a spiked chin that's not strong and/or does not show up well in these images.

P.S. It is XF Details.
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 Posted 01/24/2025  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list
I've got this one in hand now. Here are some pics. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks


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 Posted 01/24/2025  10:30 am  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
With the new pics, I'd say VF-30, possibly details from the light scratches, although the scratches probably aren't as noticeable in hand. Is the color accurate, or is that from the lighting?
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 Posted 01/24/2025  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list
The color is darker. I'll try to get a shot that is closer to true color.
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 Posted 01/24/2025  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list
This image is closer to actual color.
Is it possible for a Moderator to add " Spiked Chin to the title?
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 Posted 01/24/2025  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list
Is there anyone that can help with a Cohen designation on this?
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 Posted 01/24/2025  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
As I said before, it's a C-8, late die state.
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 Posted 01/24/2025  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
I recognize those images that are of Gold Standard Guy. He purchases coins in details holders and resells them as problem free. If that is the case, the story of this coin likely follows the same timeline.

Regardless, the obverse scratches would detail the coin anyway.
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 Posted 01/24/2025  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list

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As I said before, it's a C-8, late die state.
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Sorry about that Zurie. Large Cent Newcomb's have had me pulling my hair out. This is my first Half Cent. Very little information is available to identify the various Cohen varieties without a substantial investment in reference material. There is more to learn than I will ever accomplish in my remaining lifetime. Yet my curiosity always gets the best of me.
Thanks for your help. Maybe one day I will get it.
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 Posted 01/24/2025  3:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list
[recognize those images that are of Gold Standard Guy. He purchases coins in details holders and resells them as problem free. If that is the case, the story of this coin likely follows the same timeline.
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100% correct jacrispies. I lurk around this auction often and thought I had learned my lesson and ignore the raw coins. Although, I have had occasional good buys.
This one came home for around Greysheet VF30 bid price. I don't feel to bad though. Another lesson learned.
I have been concentrating on upgrading my Dansco 7160 Walkers with certified examples @ GSA and have much better luck.
The raw coins are few and far between. Definitely a roll of the dice
Thanks for your reply.
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 Posted 01/24/2025  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list

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Very little information is available to identify the various Cohen varieties without a substantial investment in reference material.


I like the online NGC Variety Plus catalog--here's the link to the Draped Bust Half Cents:

https://www.ngccoin.com/variety-plu...1808/?page=1

And here's a C-8 similar to yours with the large obverse Cud. It's a nice coin despite the light scratches.

https://coins.ha.com/itm/half-cents...tion-071515#
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 Posted 01/24/2025  5:26 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
She's had a rough life. I'll revise my guess to VF Details - Scratched. Definitely a Spiked Chin!
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 Posted 01/25/2025  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
I'm in the VF details box as well - scratched
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