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1942 Brass LWC, What Grade Would You Give This Coin?

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 Posted 02/06/2025  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tacc to your friends list

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Thanks! Nope, it's a wrong planchet error.

OK. Would like to see some/any proof of that.
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 Posted 02/06/2025  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moneymoai to your friends list

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OK. Would like to see some/any proof of that.

Purportedly. I got it from Hyatt Coins.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/145548586936
100% positive feedback and been around since 1959, so if they lied to me....
But yes I should send it in for authentication.
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 Posted 02/06/2025  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tacc to your friends list
Thanks for posting that @moneym. It looks like the seller was being a little deceptive with this listing,
by using Brass in the description but referring to the "color" of the coin and not the metal composition.
I posted an auction result for a 1942 Lincoln Cent struck on a brass planchet for your reference.
https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/l...-45-anacs-oh
I would do some research on your coin before having it graded by a TPG company.
Weight. Metallurgy Testing to see what metals it has in it.
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 Posted 02/06/2025  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
As for the grade, I'll say VF.
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 Posted 02/06/2025  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moneymoai to your friends list

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I would do some research on your coin before having it graded by a TPG company.
Weight. Metallurgy Testing to see what metals it has in it.

At the very least it's a thick planchet, weighs in at 3.3g
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 Posted 02/06/2025  8:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hondo Boguss to your friends list
As Tacc suggested, take your coin to the LCS or a pawn shop and have them test it with their XRF. Even if they charge $20 that's still cheaper than having it come back from a TPG in a body bag.
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 Posted 02/06/2025  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
Bronze cents (normal composition) were 95% copper and 5% tin & zinc. Brass cents (1944, '45 & '46) were 95% copper and 5% zinc. Both weighed 3.11 grams nominal with essentially identical specific gravity. Brass and bronze are nearly identical alloys.

I doubt any test would be conclusive re a '42 missing tin because it was such a small percentage of the total weight. i.e. Tin doesn't show up on an xrf wouldn't mean much if anything. Max spec weight was 3.24 grams from the mint so 3.30 grams is a touch high but would add no value.
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 Posted 02/06/2025  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moneymoai to your friends list

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I doubt any test would be conclusive re a '42 missing tin because it was such a small percentage of the total weight. i.e. Tin doesn't show up on an xrf wouldn't mean much if anything.

Well somehow it's possible to differentiate between 10 centavos planchets and regular planchets.
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 Posted 02/07/2025  12:05 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
If the metallic content is significantly different the you should get valid results. My example wasn't the best because I was comparing shell-case brass cents to bronze cents. They are essentially identical but an off metal alloy in 1942 wouldn't have been shell-case brass.

Another question is why an experienced ebay coin seller (who also operates a brick & mortar coin shop) would claim their Wheat cent was struck on a rare off-metal planchet and then sell it for $7? If they really thought it was something special they would have followed up on it themselves. It seems they had a Wheat cent worth 5 cents and hoped to get $7 plus shipping for it. Just my 2 cents. You never know where lightning will strike.
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 Posted 02/07/2025  12:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hondo Boguss to your friends list
From the listing:

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Brass RARE Light Color

It seems they were fudging by saying it has a light color, not that it was necessarily made of brass. But it certainly is misleading.
Also, in the description:

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Composition        Copper
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 Posted 02/07/2025  08:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Looks like a normal, circulated Wheat cent and worth 5 cents.

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 Posted 02/08/2025  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jimbo48 to your friends list
I have one of those 1942 brass coins. The picture shows what the brass coin on the left looks like versus the copper coin on the right. The brass coin weighs 3.3 grams and the copper 3.1 grams. Your coin looks VF.

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 Posted 02/08/2025  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moneymoai to your friends list

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I have one of those 1942 brass coins. The picture shows what the brass coin on the left looks like versus the copper coin on the right. The brass coin weighs 3.3 grams and the copper 3.1 grams. Your coin looks VF.

Awesome! Finally a good reply. If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for your brass 1942 or how did you otherwise acquire it?
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 Posted 02/08/2025  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
The bronze used in Lincoln cents is almost entirely composed of copper (95%). It is denser than brass, which has a lower copper content. So a brass cent should weigh less than a standard 3.11 gram bronze piece, not more.

Not trying to rain on your parade because it could be an off-metal planchet strike. The higher weight actually diminishes that likelihood however.
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 Posted 02/09/2025  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jimbo48 to your friends list
I found my coin in 1958 in a roll of coins that I got from a bank, when I first started collecting coins. In regards to the weight issue, NGC graded 1942 brass cents are 3.26 grams. The brass planchet is from an Ecuadorian coin that was minted prior to switching dies and minting cents. Evidently, some blank brass planchets were left in the holding bucket. The Ecuadorian planchets are slightly thicker then standard copper planchets, which accounts for the weight increase. That is the history that I have been able to uncover with research.
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