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1900 P Barber Dime: How Large Should The Photo Be?

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 Posted 05/30/2009  2:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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Here's a great thread by one of our members regarding digital coin photography:


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TonysPics, the larger photos here are about the correct size for grading and evaluation purposes. You generally want a coin size of no less than 500 pixels, preferably larger, for a clear evaluation.

You've obviously got a camera that's up to the task, so all that's needed now is some tweaking of lighting and camera settings. Using the pics here as an example, the lighting is a bit too concentrated, so there's always going to be a little bit washed out at 3:00 on the coin when you use this particular light. You'll be striking a balance between washing out as little as possible at 3:00, and keeping the exposure long enough to still show the details at 9:00 on the coin. If the exposure for these pics was (and I'm pulling a number out of my head), say, 1/80, the exact same setup with an exposure of 1/125 or 1/160 will probably be a better compromise between the two sides.

I don't want to get too deep into it here, because we've got a dedicated forum for this stuff and the thread wheezydogweerdsteev was so nice to link covers much of it. I will say, however, that I think you're only a little tweaking away from that dime looking like this one:

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 Posted 05/30/2009  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list
SuperDave: Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Get your Forum members straight! Especially if you're sending checks in the mail! DO NOT SEND THE CHECK TO WHEEZYDOG!!!
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Oops.

Appropriate edits made.
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 Posted 05/31/2009  5:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TonysPics to your friends list
The photos might come out better when I take them at home with incandescent lighting.
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 Posted 06/01/2009  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list
SuperDave - I have no Barber dime expertise so maybe the answer to this question is obvious to some but not me... What is going on with the obverse of that 1892 you posted? Especially in the field just to the right of and under the chin? It almost looks a "negative" of the wreath from the reverse...? Is it just a reflection, a lamination error, product of my overactive imagination...? Also looks like some doubling beneath the first three characters of the date.
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 Posted 06/01/2009  10:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
That Barber has heavy and probably multiple clash marks. The apparent doubling of the date is a shadowing effect due to toning or lack thereof in the shadow of the date. This phenomenon is most apparent on toned Morgans and is a good indicator of natural toning since it is an effect that can only be imparted through slow, long term toning.
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 Posted 06/01/2009  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
What he said.

That Barber was among the most heavily-clashed coins I'd ever seen. That said, my choice of lighting for the shot involved deliberately emphasizing the clashing, so it was even more prominent in the photos than it was in-hand.

Quite the cool little coin, that was.
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 Posted 06/04/2009  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TonysPics to your friends list
I took the photos in the original post at the coin shop with the overhead flourescent lighting and the obverse had some glare (my coin photography book says don't use flourescent lighting), but I took this one at home with 2 incandescent lamps on each side.

Unlike Dave's coin above, this one has no contrast or toning, but does have lots of mint luster.

Any opinions on the new photo and the MS65 grade?


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And even though I took the reverse photo at the shop, it looks OK to me, but I would appreciate opinions on whether or not I should take a new photo of the reverse.

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 Posted 06/04/2009  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
In my opinion (and this is *only* an opinion), the reverse photo is the winner. It's a much more accurate depiction of the true luster of this wonderful coin. Both photos are detailed enough to show the technical grade, but the reverse seems more like the coin would actually look in-hand.
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 Posted 06/04/2009  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TonysPics to your friends list
Dave, I agree and I think I should try the obverse again. The incandescent lighting doesn't show any glare but it doesn't show the awesome mint luster.
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 Posted 06/04/2009  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list
The new obverse photo has somehow obscured the luster. Maybe you are using too many light sources? To show cartwheel luster you basically need a point source of light, which can be a single halogen or incandescent bulb located well above the coin. An MS-65 uncirculated coin should show "hot" and "cold" (i.e., brighter and darker) areas caused by reflection and diffraction of the point-source lighting. If you have too many point sources the hot/cold contrasts are averaged out, giving a uniform (and unnatural) appearance.

Just my opinion!
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 Posted 06/04/2009  9:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list
And in my totally UNINFORMED opinion, I'll repeat something I said back at the beginning of all this: It looks like it's in black and white - or greyscale. Why is that? Is it me? It's like the color saturation or vividness has been turned off.
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 Posted 06/05/2009  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TonysPics to your friends list
Steev, it has no color. It's just a uniform shiny silver on the obverse. The reverse seems to have some slightly different shades of silver.
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 Posted 06/17/2009  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike Hayes to your friends list
That's a very clean 1900 Dime.

The last reverse image shows great lustre
but the obverse looks somewhat flat.

I just added a 1900-P Dime to my set yesterday
but as this is only my second post, I'm not too
sure of how to post images.

--- don't see a green camera icon ...
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 Posted 06/18/2009  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list
Dave
That is one great example of a Barber dime clashed obverse!

Thanks for showing
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