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Locked
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NGC on the right. Not even a good fake.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Why would anyone buy coins from China?
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Pillar of the Community
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I e-mailed him if it was genuine...answer was YES!
I guess you can't trust anyone anymore! hahahahahahahaha
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Pillar of the Community
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He just left out the part about it being a "genuine" reproduction!
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Valued Member
United States
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"I guess you can't trust anyone anymore!"
Put your faith into knowledge and the system, people are only human.
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United States
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Always worth looking at feedback
"Fake coins, I was fooled. An expert was stunned by quality of the fakes. Beware!"
This was a follow up after the dude had left positive feedback.
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Pillar of the Community
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I agree with scubu, the fake is not very close to the real thing. Look at the mintmark and the eagles head on reverse
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United States
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I always thought that if you were mechanically and artistically inclined enough to fake a coin, wouldn't you be better off being an artist or sculptor? Ooops, common sense rears its head again.
Atrocious, absolutely. Lets all remember that the Chinese have their own mint. A real one. With real dies and striking presses. And real gold and silver. The possibilties make the mind reel, talk about an undetectable counterfiet - a lot better than this one. For heaven's sake with the right technology you could produce an authentic period alloy.
Yikes
Bruce
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Pillar of the Community
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Are you saying that the Chinese national mint could be responsible for these fakes?
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Bedrock of the Community
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I always thought that if you were mechanically and artistically inclined enough to fake a coin, wouldn't you be better off being an artist or sculptor? Not really. There are a LOT ofpeople out there that are quite talented artistically but being able to make a living out of being an artist or a sculptor it extremely unlikely. Even most famous artists had to have a patron who believed in him and supported him for years before they became famous and were able to actually make a living on their commissions. Case in point Van Gogh, today he is considered a master and his paintings are worth tens of millions of dollars. But during his life he only managed to sell one painting. No most artists have to have a real job to support themselves and they do their art on the side to please themselves. No it is much easier to make a fake of something and sell it to people who don't know any better. You'll make a better living that was. |
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I have a question on Chinese fake coins. I was told that the fake coins are pitted in the open areas, because most of them at cast and not punched, is this correct? Also I have read that the early Chinese crown coins were cast, is this correct. The reason I'm asking is I have gotten a hold of 80+ Chinese crown coins from an elderly gentlemen, who says that these are real and he had gotten them from his father how was stationed in China at the turn of the last century. Any ideas?
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Pillar of the Community
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The item is pulled already!
They should keep them on line for educational purposes.
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I was told that the fake coins are pitted in the open areas, because most of them at cast and not punched, is this correct? You can't depend on that. Sometimes the coins are cast, sometimes they are struck from dies that were cast, sometimes struck from dies that are punched, or impact dies, or engraved, or etc. In short counterfeits can be created in many different ways and each type has its own characteristics. Quote:
Also I have read that the early Chinese crown coins were cast, is this correct. Depends, what time period you are talking about but if the coins you are talking about are from the late 19th or early 20th century then no they are struck coins. |
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LOL - no I didn't mean the Chinese Gov. is responsible, was just pointing out the possibilities. Most likely you could, however, manufacture or contract to manufacture anything in that country.
Bruce
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Chinese Coins are made by modern minting methods and as time has passed they are improving. Once they get Janvier and Engraving tech down, along with the alloy, it might wreck the numismatic world.
China doesn't care about counterfieting any thing before 1949! I was in Shanghai for a project and facke coins abound. If they get the silver 90% right, I would be worried it might wreck coins.
1909 VDB S Pennies from china would wreck the market. Their Govt could care less about a Bourgeoise Hobby (Their words) so Caveat Emptor.
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