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1878 VAM 123

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 Posted 08/17/2009  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MorgansRmine to your friends list
Kevin, compare your coin to the Vam-121.
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 Posted 08/17/2009  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kevinslack to your friends list
my U in pluribus was normal, but also look at the ear on this, it looks to be driffernt.

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 Posted 08/17/2009  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kevinslack to your friends list
better picture of ear and designers initial looks very wide

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 Posted 08/17/2009  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kevinslack to your friends list
some of nose is missing

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 Posted 08/17/2009  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Have a look at VAM-188:

http://www.vamworld.com/1878-P+VAM-188

The nose is a clue; I see what looks like the characteristic washed-out "L," and the filled "e" in "We." If it is, that wouls make this coin very close to the finest-known example, currently an AU-53.
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 Posted 08/18/2009  06:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kevinslack to your friends list
i looked but I dont think its a VAM 188
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 Posted 08/18/2009  07:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MorgansRmine to your friends list
Kevin, just for the heck of it, can we have a picture of the L in liberty, Y in liberty, r in trust and UM in unum?
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 Posted 08/18/2009  08:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list
Kevin,

Sorry to hear it's not the big one. Could you post a decent pic of the entire obverse and reverse for us. For any attribution we really need to see the whole picture first. On 78's we're specifically looking for three things to narrow the field and all are on the reverse ... tail feathers, arrow feathers and the 'r' in trust. Sometimes we spin off in the wrong direction without first verifying these three markers. On this coin, I would really like to get a decent look at the 'r' in trust. Thanks.
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 Posted 08/18/2009  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kevinslack to your friends list
heres more pictures see if this helps.

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 Posted 08/18/2009  5:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kevinslack to your friends list
heres the rest

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 Posted 08/18/2009  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kevinslack to your friends list
heres the other two you wanted

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 Posted 08/18/2009  6:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list
Kevin,

You're a real trooper here. Fun isn't it?

I think you have a VAM 161 Shifted 'E'. The 'R' in PLURIBUS is a match and it appears there is tripling on the inner ear. Of course, VAMWorld doesn't list all the features on their webpage. Usually they only list enough to nail down an attribution. Keys for the 161 are the 'E' the 'R' the lack of significant doubling on the 'P' and of course that ear tripling. The coin also has the broken 'r' in 'Trust' on the reverse.

Check it against the 161 and let us know if we have a match.
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 Posted 08/18/2009  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kevinslack to your friends list
yes it has all the marks of the 161, but what about the nostril does that also go with the 161, thanks for all the help now I can put the right VAM number on coin.
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 Posted 08/18/2009  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list
Kevin,

The nostril is not listed on the 161 page at VAMWorld. Like I mentioned previously, they don't list all the features on every coin. Some day they will get there. You could ask them on the VAMWorld discussion board to verify this and then post the picture of yours to the page and edit the text (I noticed you joined in the discussions there). The 1878 VAM 116A and 118 pages were my edits.
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 Posted 08/18/2009  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kevinslack to your friends list
yes I have been there but cant drag picture to post so I gave up on talking there, its not hard to post pictures here so I like this site.
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