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Is This An Authentic 1893 S Morgan Dollar?

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 Posted 11/12/2009  10:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
Yep, it is an authentic altered Morgan dollar with no mint mark
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 Posted 11/12/2009  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
The 1893-S did have a slightly raised 3, as this coin appears to have. However I see no signs of a mint mark at all. Also the pictures aren't clear enough to tell if it's real or not. I would not take a chance with this one.
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 Posted 11/12/2009  2:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
Always fun to see these auctions because I learn something.
Mintmark aside, check out the shape of the top loop of the 3--modified 8?
From what I've seen, that's not the correct shape for this year, 1893-S or 1893-P.

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 Posted 11/12/2009  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
If you compare the "3" to the "8", the shape looks unmistakeable. IMHO, it REALLY looks like a modified 1898 Morgan made to look like an 1893.

(That's if it's not a completely counterfeit coin from China already... Which, given the lack of luster, it may very well be)

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 Posted 11/13/2009  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brannenworks to your friends list
I'm no expert at all but the 3 looks okay to me.

By the way, if I were going to make an 1893-S silver dollar, I'd start with an 1898-S where the "S" was at least visible in a photograph.
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 Posted 11/13/2009  1:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Do you suppose the 1921-only reverse might be a hint?
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 Posted 11/13/2009  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AGCoinHunter to your friends list
1921-only reverse - ?
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 Posted 11/13/2009  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
Nice spot SuperDave The Morgan dollar dies were completely recreated for the 1921 issue and those coins are distinctly different from the rest of the Morgan dollar series.
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 Posted 11/13/2009  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list
Four major reverse styles were used on the Morgan dollar, labeled A,B, C, and D. In 1878 the 8TF and 7/8TF used variations of the A reverse (flat eagle breast, long nock, and parallel arrow feather). The 1878 7TF used both the B and C reverse (B was parallel arrow feather, flat breast and both long and short nock)(C was slanted arrow feather, rounded breast and short nock). The C reverse was used on all coin from late 1880 to 1904 (some 79-S coins have reverses of 78). The 1921 coins used the D reverse (parallel arrow feather and flat breast). Many Chinese counterfeits of 1880-1904 Morgans use the D reverse ... as SuperDave indicates, it's a dead give-away.
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 Posted 11/13/2009  3:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
So there's even better reasons to question this one.
Despite that, bidding is up to $300 on this worthless trinket.
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 Posted 11/13/2009  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jewellge to your friends list

You guys are GOOD!
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Do you suppose the 1921-only reverse might be a hint?




That's why he's SuperDave.
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 Posted 11/14/2009  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
Good eye Dave.
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 Posted 11/14/2009  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
That "coin" closed at $700. Yikes.
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That "coin" closed at $700. Yikes.

It's never ceases to amaze me that ebay has become a haven for scamsters and conmen. I have limited my activity on ebay for this very reason. Really sad commentary on what ebay has become.
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