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First Strike's What's The Real Story?

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 Posted 03/26/2005  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add national dealer to your friends list
The easiest way to judge MS coins is first strike, then marks, then overall eye appeal. With circulated examples it is just about wear and luster. In order to understand the MS scale, one must first know what the coin is supposed to look like when fully struck. How the seperation of device and field are in relation to one another. Always remember that a coin has three sides, so watch that edge.......
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 Posted 03/26/2005  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by zakgold
On a personal note, I have reduced my my "coin on-line forum time" to only "Coin Community" because I need to spend more time on higher priorities (work, house, kids). I may not post as much as I have in the past, but I will continue to read these educational threads that make me a better collector overall. So if you don't hear from me in awhile, you know the reason. Ed



Ed, I know what you mean about the time crunch. There's only 28 hours in a day and that's not enough!

But, please don't go too far from us; we need your insight, perspective, and hard-earned knowledge which you have so freely shared before.

We'll keep the light on.
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 Posted 03/27/2005  12:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list
You only have 28 hours per day? Why, here in Indiana we have our own time zone and have been fighting about it for years. Our legislature is currently STILL FIGHTING over it! Us Hoosiers feel we have all the time in the world unless, of course, we are actually doing something and then there is never enough time. Our workdays seem like about 40 hours every day and our days off seem like about 2 hours and paying our taxes seems like an eternity! The only way you can escape this mess is by taking the time to COLLECT COINS!!!
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 Posted 03/27/2005  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add national dealer to your friends list
How did you get 28? I have been looking for more hours. Could use 4 more in a given day, and maybe an extra day in the week.

Indiana is in a world of their own. Depending on the time of the year, it can really throw off the traveling times. For those that don't know, there is no daylight savings time there.
Of course, I keep getting invitations to move the office to Indy, and I do love it there.
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 Posted 03/27/2005  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list
Hello crew!! As a Hoosier of ten years,I assure you that most of the state honors daylight savings time. Only eight Counties stay on the Eastern time zone all year. The battle continues! Mike
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 Posted 03/27/2005  11:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by national dealer

How did you get 28? I have been looking for more hours. Could use 4 more in a given day, and maybe an extra day in the week.


I bought a goodly supply of extra hours off ebay (of course) last year. I'm running low, so will be shopping around for more. There's a few hours available in Buy It Now auctions, but they're over-priced and not particularly high quality. I'm thinking of going to look outside the US, perhaps in the South Pacific where idle hours seem to be in abundance and of extremely high quality.

quote:
Originally posted by national dealer
Indiana is in a world of their own. Depending on the time of the year, it can really throw off the traveling times. For those that don't know, there is no daylight savings time there.
Of course, I keep getting invitations to move the office to Indy, and I do love it there.



I'm presently in Arizona. No Daylight Savings Time here either. In the winter, we're on Mountain Standard Time while in the summer, Pacific Daylight Time. Never change the clocks.
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 Posted 03/28/2005  02:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add catman to your friends list
How did we get off the subject of First Strikesto extra hours and daylight savings time...?

catman
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 Posted 03/28/2005  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list
BECAUSE neither one makes much sense, thats how!!! I will throw in a fact that last year I was the first U.S. citizen to try to order a PCGS encapsulated and graded France silver Euro commemorating D-Day! The distributor didn't have a clue what I was talking about as only 200 FIRST strikes would be made and handed over to a PCGS representitive at the French Mint the day of the FIRST strikes. They was then flown to the U.S. in serial numbered containers 1 thru 200 and the slab carries the order of strike (serial number). Now remember I was the first to attempt to place an order! About two weeks later the distributor, who took my information, called back (now that they had gained the knowledge needed to offer the coins for sale) and offered me the coins in question. I asked if they remembered who made the first call and of course they did and verified that it was indeed me! I asked for the first strike (serial #1) and they replied they had already been offered $600 each for #1 and #2? I then asked for #3 and #4 and the best they could do was to offer to send the lowest strike number they possibly could. I WAS FIRST IN LINE and got #131 and #132! Guess there are 130 collectors here in the states that do business with that particular dealer who has a lot more pull than I do? Any way Catman I, for what it is worth, have a DOCUMENTED FIRST STRIKE that will someday, if not already, be worth less than what I paid for them! One thing is for certain the French collectors didn't have a clue this program was being offered to U.S. citizens first!

Now ND we Hoosiers will be glad to help you move and glad to have you. Perhaps we could do you like our friends up in Indy did with the Colts. Build you a new stadium and sneak you out under the cover of darkness! What ever suits your needs will be fine with us! And about 20 years from now we will tear down your relatively NEW home and build you another NEW one so that you can make more money in the future with the same amount of effort! Relax its only tax money and we Hoosiers offer it up for just about everything. Let me know when you want to make the move as we need a good dealer here very badly!
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 Posted 03/28/2005  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add catman to your friends list
Now wait C64,

Just maybe , we out west, would like to have ND move here. He can do anyrhing here and it stays here.

catman
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 Posted 03/28/2005  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add national dealer to your friends list
Catman,

I had many thoughts and even a few comments, but I have thought better of it. I grew up in Los Angeles and made more than a few trips over the mountain to your area. I still make the show every other year. I think that if I moved back west, I would never get anything done. I would probably get bitten by the gold and silver bug, grab a shovel and pick, and head for the hills.
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 Posted 03/28/2005  1:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add national dealer to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by crystalk64
Now ND we Hoosiers will be glad to help you move and glad to have you. Perhaps we could do you like our friends up in Indy did with the Colts. Build you a new stadium and sneak you out under the cover of darkness! What ever suits your needs will be fine with us! And about 20 years from now we will tear down your relatively NEW home and build you another NEW one so that you can make more money in the future with the same amount of effort! Relax its only tax money and we Hoosiers offer it up for just about everything. Let me know when you want to make the move as we need a good dealer here very badly!



Now that is the best offer I have heard in a long time. I have been fighting with Delaware to offer up something, but they are still trying to woo the big companies. They prefer incorporating the companies that never move there. Take a check every three months and never have to build new roads, new schools, or improve the quality of life. PA makes a few good offers, but there really isn't much there to keep me busy. There have been rumors floating arount that I may be looking to move in the next year. I guess we may have to make a poll to see where.
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 Posted 03/28/2005  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zakgold to your friends list
ND...come to God's waiting room of Florida. No state income tax and better yet , no tax on coins sold (for the majority).

Anyways, all of these seniors that live down here visit their local coin store with the same story:

"This is my husband's colletion...I hate these because he would rather post on the coin forums instead of give me the attention I deserve...what is it you say?...10 cents on the dollar for this 'mess'?...I'll take it!"

"Me and the senior ladies are going to Denny's tonight!"

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 Posted 03/28/2005  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add catman to your friends list
Boy ND... Your a popular guy... (VBG)

catman
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 Posted 03/28/2005  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list
Just think of the BEAUTY of 4 seasons we have to offer here in Indiana. The rain, the snow, the mud, the hail and sleet, the ice, the flooding, the heat, the tornadoes, a drought and of course the beauty of our leaves in the fall! We have it all and its FREE for just moving in! Great neighbors, low crime, bad neighbors, high crime.....just according to where you call home so welcome ND to a state that NEEDS more COIN DEALERS!!! When you get ready to move just give me a call as a location within 25 miles of my home would probably be BEST for you!
Now Kyra and Ndgoflo I don't want to hear any complaining as it won't hurt you a bit to drive down here and see us folks in FRIENDLY southern Indiana! Will give you directions!
Sorry Catman....you will have to settle as a vacation destination!
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 Posted 03/28/2005  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add catman to your friends list
(head down, kicking a rock, lower lip up) Gee, I just wanted one honest dealer...that's all.

I guess I will have to go to the gentlemen's club and lose all my troubles now..

catman
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