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A $270 Gamble - Real Or Fake?

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 Posted 02/01/2010  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrfun to your friends list
That is the fake 1921 by H.K. Replica coins. As I said, yours is by The Big Tree Coin Factory. Check the 1's of the date with this one....see pic.....
http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/...rfun/aaa.jpg
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 Posted 02/01/2010  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tamarin to your friends list
A fake. The easiest way to tell is the leaf at the inside four o'clock position on the reverse is never complete. It's botched and it's the same on all this series of fakes.
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 Posted 02/01/2010  6:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrfun to your friends list
tamarin, that is a good marker....it may be hindered however when/if the coin has been tumbled to a G/VG appearance. :-)
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 Posted 02/01/2010  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add laconic to your friends list
Sorry coinsrfun. When you initially said Big Tree Coin Factory, I thought you were being sarcastic but it apparently does exist (wonder how they came up with that name). Thanks for the comparison picture!

Tamarin thats a good tell to look for in fakes, I never knew about the 4:00 leaf. Something to watch out for in buying a more obtainable 1932.
Edited by laconic
02/01/2010 6:26 pm
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 Posted 02/01/2010  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrfun to your friends list
yup...sarcastic......enjoy your 270.00 slug :-)
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 Posted 02/01/2010  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1cent to your friends list
Some here may know the secret identity of the guy behind the mystery mask of "coinsrfun" and some may not...suffice to say he has been well praised and had honors bestowed upon him for his work in the field. I'd listen to what he says.
He's not going to point out this fact, but someone needed to.

As for the $270 price, it's a guarantee that it's a fake also. Nobody is going to let a coin that's worth tens of thousands go for $270 on the "off chance" that it might be a fake. If the seller had even the slightest hope it was real, he'd have sent it off to be graded himself. Mind you, if he tried, and it came back "fake" and uncertified, at that point he might try to pass it off as a "possible counterfeit". If it seems too good to be true....
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 Posted 02/14/2010  01:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladhunter13 to your friends list
Hello.

I'm no coin expert. I figured I would combine the pictures and see what differences I could see. Here are just a few the popped out at me.

Like I said. I'm no expert. I hope if you take it to get graded...it is what you thought it might be.

A-$270-Gamble---Real-Or-Fake?
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 Posted 02/14/2010  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add laconic to your friends list
I ended up returning the coin and got my money back. The bases of the 1s and the inner leaf at 4:00 people mentioned convinced me. Thanks to all for their help on this one!
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02/14/2010 11:04 am
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 Posted 02/14/2010  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
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 Posted 02/14/2010  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hhbkiddo to your friends list
Have a very serious question:
if a coin is ICCS certified ( or another TPG) what guarantee do we have that it is NOT a fake?
ICCS is just simply not responsible, absolutely NOT transparent, offers absolutely NO guarantee... Just says: In our opinion.......this is.....
and we should simply believe it?
we have no idea what they base their "authentification" on...
we are better off checking the original pictures on the Bank of Canada website, the archives...
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 Posted 02/14/2010  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladhunter13 to your friends list
Good idea on returning the coin. Now you can spend the cash on some something you know that you are getting your moneys worth. Have a great day.
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 Posted 02/14/2010  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
it makes me happy when a buyer comes here to find the answers like this before its to late because so many times it is to late by the time they ask questions and they are stuck with their high priced fake. I am glad all of you people were able to help him out and just wish I had knowledge in this series to help as well but anyway I am glad to see a positive outcome on this
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 Posted 02/15/2010  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwhitman to your friends list
That you got your money returned
BTW: Is that Heritage coin have a doubled 'CAN'?
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 Posted 02/15/2010  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
wwhitman--I noticed that in the pic, but was unsure since I didn't see it other examples.
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 Posted 02/15/2010  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrfun to your friends list
I was thinking that it was image doubling thru a holder?
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