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Found Two Old Houses And Barns. Have A Question

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 Posted 03/31/2010  5:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halfwitty to your friends list
The timbers look to be 1920-30 so very well could be around the prohibition era.
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 Posted 03/31/2010  5:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fcrazo to your friends list
Is this private or public property?
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 Posted 03/31/2010  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RPT to your friends list
I don't think I would go in there without shoring it up some.
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 Posted 03/31/2010  6:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pls to your friends list
Your county clerk should have information on the ownership, past and present of the parcel of land on which this structure stands. Take a screen shot of the Google view with you to help in narrowing down the township and range ID. Looks interesting. FYI - my old garage, which probably was built in 1925 or so, leaned like this, too. I hired Frick and Frack to take it down, and even though they cut through the support 2x4's and hooked a chain to it, it almost didn't come down. I salvaged the 2x4's, all southern yellow pine, and so far have made a workshop bench top from them. They used REAL lumber back in those days, so your structure might stand for decades.
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 Posted 03/31/2010  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add needgames4lyfe to your friends list
watch out for bugs lol!
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 Posted 04/02/2010  08:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tim Stroud to your friends list
I would not enter that place at all.
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 Posted 04/02/2010  09:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list
Through the years I've found several shanties like this one. The broken bottles wouldn't lead me to believe it was a bootlegging operation. All of the shanties I've searched had trash piles that contained a lot of broken glass. They didn't have trash pickup and the majority of staples came in glass bottles and jars. Most dug a hole and disposed of the glass in that hole.

I wouldn't recommend swinging a detector inside due to the instability of the structure and the amount of trash strewn around. It would be virtually impossible to get a clear signal through that stuff. But I would search the outside thoroughly.

What State is this in?
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 Posted 04/02/2010  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list
There should be county plat maps at your county seat. The ones I have seen, seem to be done about every 10 years and would have a mark and a name for each house.

Also a lot of counties you can access tax information online. For our county it shows each piece of property. It also list when house was built, who owns it .. price of last couple sales. with plat and satellite maps. Maybe your county has something similar.
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 Posted 04/02/2010  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list
Youngsters may have used this area to sneak their consumption. I would search the outside, and the leave in inside alone, or you may wind up someone else "discovery".

If you look up the prior occupants of this "building", her name may be Eileen (I Lean) Pyle.
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 Posted 04/02/2010  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list
From the spray painted graffiti inside, it's obvious that someone else knows about the place as well. From your pictures, it is hard to tell whether this was a house or an outbuilding. Is there a back door to it? It looks to me as though the first picture above might well be the front of the place. From the apparent age of it, though, it is possible that there may be some collectibles lurking.

Figure out where the back door or back porch is. Take a glass bottle or jar and throw it as hard as you can -- where it lands would probably be the distance away from the house where you will find the garbage pit. Sweep the area to see if you can find it. Old bottles can be worth big bucks, as can such things as old beer cans. With the latter, do not worry if they look rusty -- they usually had a very deep layer of paint on them pre-World War II, and most of what looks like rust will come off of them with the right acid bath. Note that the oldest beer cans have necks on them and are called "conetops". Some of these can be worth hundreds.

See if there is some kind of a landmark that you can see from the kitchen window -- a big boulder, or something, and also see if you can see a fenceline. Since there was usually no bank readily available, some people put their cash in a can of some sort and buried it where they could keep an eye on it. This is where you want to swing a detector.
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 Posted 04/02/2010  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmerc20 to your friends list
Very interesting information and ideas everyone. It's in North Carolina hence the grafitti "UNC IS WAY BETTER THAN DUKE" on the wall LOL

The opposite side of the house is the remains of a big porch. Possibly 1/2 to 2/3 the length of the house. There are a couple old fallen down sheds within a couple hundred yards of the house and near the one I found a large pile of Schlitz cans. Probably 1970s era.

It's about a 20 minute trek through the thick woods to get to it, and that was during the winter without any growth. The next chance I will have to detect will be late this month or early May however I will try to hit it hard.

I will certainly keep everyone posted with any potential finds and make sure I bring my camera out there. I'm not sure if the house is even still standing since I took the pictures in early 2009 before I left on my deployment.

Mike
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 Posted 04/04/2010  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harrison2 to your friends list
FWIW, look at the nails used in the structure. That's one good way to determine it's age. Ate they the conventional "wire" nails used today or the older "cut" nails that we see blacksmiths using on horse shoes. Also look at the framing and floor trusses. In order of relative age: is the wood factory "plained" with smooth corners, does it show the signs of a band saw cut "||||||", a circular saw cut "((((((((" or possibly pit saw cut "///////". Also look at the foundation, is it concrete or stone?
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 Posted 05/25/2010  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list
My take on the "old house", is that it was a "home to someone, at some time. One doesn't find stairs foing anywhere in an old "out-house", even if it is a 2-holer. Above all, look out for 'critters"!@ Black widow spiders, Grey Recluse spiders, and snakes. Out west we normally have our "rattlers, ascorpoins, and gila monsters, and the side-winders. coral snakes also have been found. Back East, it is a whole different "kettle of fish". there are several venomous snakes, ans the bad part is, they don't "buzz' to warn you of danger! be sure you have your snake proof leggings, and watch where you putor stick your hands!
check the walls, and floor areas where they might have a loose baord, or panel. Yes check the "stump holes, and around the fence posts. One other place that was commonly used for SDB's is the hollowed out areas in older, large trees. Good hunting! let us know if you find anything you 'want to talk about"! Remember the IRS has ear, everywhere!
Dick
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 Posted 05/26/2010  05:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twincam_04 to your friends list

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It's in North Carolina hence the grafitti "UNC IS WAY BETTER THAN DUKE" on the wall LOL


you need to find that colorblind student and 'splain they used Wolfpack red
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 Posted 05/26/2010  05:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dustin43160 to your friends list
above the door/beside the door it looks like plaster on the walls? thats a clue if its plaster its pre 50s if it was drywall I dont see it lasting in the elements that long it would of sucked up moisture and swelled leading to falling apart... this comes from the drywall king hehe
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