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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Welcome! and why would someone silver cast a gold coin? just wondering... I think its where he is from that made people second guess the coin in question. China is the hot bed for counterfeit US coins of all denominations and the reason it could be a different color is they were testing their dies and just struck something they had laying around or it wasn't meant to deceive, just as a copy of the pattern. I do not see anything in the bigger picture that would make me think it was counterfeit but have to admit since the place of residence is China I would probably want a weight of the coin before making a definite answer on authenticity because there are some that look very very good but their weight is off and sometimes that's the only way to tell |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If the coin has been passed down for several generations, I would think there is a lesser chance of it being a counterfit.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The new pictures are much better. Now at least we know the coin really is gold colored. It looks real to me, and it isn't a key date so it is less likely to be counterfeited. I'm not saying there is no chance, just less of one. SuperDave has good advice, try that dealer in Kowloon.
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New Member
 Hong Kong
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Thank you everyone for the advice.
Yes, the place of my origin does indeed raise a flag to whether it is fake or not, lol
Anyway, I will be out of the country for 2 weeks,
after I come back, I will certainly get it graded,
good to know it looks legit beforehand to save the embrassement~
Keep you guys posted~
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Can't wait to hear about this one.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I am glad you understand that the uncertainty that was expressed in this thread was in no way directed at you personally it is just we have all seen how good these copies are from your country and it throws up red flags in our mind even though we don't mean for it to. We have seen both sides represented on here where someone from your country had a real coin and also seen where someone thought theirs was real and we had to tell them that it was a copy. Some has even fooled us before and we gave misinformation not meaning to only to find that after they sent the coin in to be graded that it was in fact a counterfeit coin which upset us as much as it did the owner I think.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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My bet is that it is a fake. The relief on the obv seems too high combined with the odd detail weaknesses on the reverse just has several red flags waving.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I hope not but a correct weight would be what I would get before sending it in for grading just to be sure because even though there are copies that look very good their weight is always off on the ones I have seen
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Valued Member
United States
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My opinion, and that is all that it is, an opinion, since this is what was requested in the op== is that this coin in not genuine. Looking at the reverse, there is just too much mushiness in the details of the devices and the lettering. Compare it to one on Heritage. This coin appears to be uncirc. or nearly so (details) and yet the "details" just aren't there.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I was saying it could of been a silver casting before he posted the new pics that show the color. As for why I said it could of been a sliver casting... didnt we see silver casting of a dollar with an Indian Head cent front and a morgan back a few days ago?... I though that one was a cool coin though :) |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I would deff get it graded though, and even if it is a fake, and it has been passed down, they might of faked it in real gold (as they did for double eagles for jewelry)... It could still be worth its weight in gold.. about $1000!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I disagree TD.Gold coins,even though we would like to think so,were NEVER stamped with the degree that we have now.They were used as coin.Poker,buying groceries, hookers,etc.The smaller coinage was mostly used but still. I have done a search on this puppy and I believe to have been in a few poker games.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Here is the reverse on my 1900 type example (ex PCGS MS-61) for comparison.  I don't see an obvious difference in detail/mushiness between mine and the OP's coin. Halfwitty, are you saying that you used a $20 lib in a Poker game?  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It looks real to me, and it isn't a key date so it is less likely to be counterfeited. Actually the fact that it isn't a key date probably makes it MORE likely to be counterfeit. when they were counterfeiting US gold by the trunkload in the middle east back in the 1950's and 60's, they faked the common dates, not the keys. Keys got examined closely, commons didn't and they were making their mone on the difference between the bullion value of the gold and roughly double face premium the US gold coins brought. (Double eagle had just under $35 in gold and would sell for $63.) |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I never knew that conder, makes sense though..
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