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Thanks Super Dave! I keep forgetting that whole supply/demand thing! LOL!
Are the stars in front of her face doubled, too? Looks like it to me. Just curious why they would list the 2 to the right of date as a marker, which seem weaker, and not these.
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Are the stars in front of her face doubled, too? Looks like it to me. Just curious why they would list the 2 to the right of date as a marker, which seem weaker, and not these.
That's a good question. On the example I have images of, the two stars closest to the "E" are just as strikingly doubled as the ones to the right of the date. |
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It looks to me like there is stronger doubling on those than the ones to the right of the date. What about the "E"? Is that doubled?  |
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those stars are not strike doubled, but most likely not listed as the other main features are what make it a VAM 33A, VAM world has a history of not listing every detail, but rather the main features which attribute the VAM.. |
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Thanks aladin, what about the "E"? Does that look doubled? It's a little beat up, so I'm not really sure.
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Here's the E from one which passed through my collection - it was an NGC MS63 with a rather mushy strike:  The doubling of all 3 pictured features is fairly obvious, even with the poor strike. |
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as usual. the VAM World Pictures HIGHLITE the main features which IDENTIFY a VAM, many times we see other things which are not listed in the description, leading us all into a frenzy of questions...Mine has this and that......one must remember (generally) the die is the die, so when the main points are known, the VAM is ID-ed...however many a VAM is decided by the smallest pimple on the butt. as we all know....and thats why we ask...... |
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Scooby, I sold one of these in an old ANACS type grade card MS63 on ebay several months ago for $165 if memory serves me. I picked 3 of them up at a VFW coin show last year. nlp |
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Thanks nlp! I got this one off ebay for $65. The picture was just good enough to see the doubling on the tail feathers. |
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1878-P VAM 33A's are very interesting clashed coins. They are not rare, but they are scarce. Congratulations on finding a neat variety. |
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Thanks Oz, it's probably my nicest Morgan so far. As far as interest level, not grade. Hopefully, I'll be saying that a lot more!
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Hey there Scooby, On this type coin the doubling you are seeing is from the hub. Hub doubling will be on many coins as the working hub was used too make many working die's. That is one of the reasons it is not listed. You will here the Die is the Die many times lord knows I did. If a working die has a flaw in it then all coins produced will have that flaw. If the flaw was on the Hub then that will transfer the many dies, making that flaw kind of normal. If that makes sense
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I don't know how I missed this thread. Scooby the sales data for the 33A is the same as the 33 ($100 in MS62, Jan 2010 SSDC price guide). You can usually add at least $25 for a coin slabbed by PCGS, NGC or ANACs. Quick question ... did the slab ID this as an 1878 7TF or 7/8TF. Normally NGC only slabs the "strong" 7/8TF as such and lists the VAM 30, 31, 33/33A, etc as 7TF. And for those looking to snag the elusive VAM44 ... it shares the same reverse as the 33/33A. When looking for tripling of the blossoms and doubling of the leaves on the obverse, it's very hard to do with pictures unless they are large and clear. Look instead at the "ear fill". The 33/33A is short ... the 44/44A is long. See attached pic. Cheers and nice snag at that price!   |
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I don't recall the label SeatedNut, that was ages ago! Way back at the tail end of May! LOL!
I'll check when I get home and let you know.
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SeatedNut, the slab is labeled "1878 7TF REV OF 78".
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