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 Posted 07/16/2006  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by Becky

I am leaning toward the strike through theory. Up a little higher on her neck are what appear to be 3 small strike throughs. It would not surprise me for that to be a 4th.

Very interesting coin. Thanks for sharing her




Let me get those upper marks under the QX5. At 60x I should be able to tell between the postmint gouges I thought they were, and strikethroughs.
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 Posted 07/16/2006  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
SuperDave, I just read your post on CU about your 1921, is it a PL or a Zerbe? I couldn't quite understand what you were trying to say over there and instead of replying there figured I would just ask here (more personal here I beleive)
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SuperDave, I just read your post on CU about your 1921, is it a PL or a Zerbe? I couldn't quite understand what you were trying to say over there and instead of replying there figured I would just ask here (more personal here I beleive)



The coin in question attributes as a 1921-P VAM-47. Whether that continues to be called "Zerbe" or not, in view of the new information, is debatable. It's the coin I've talked about in Diane's threads. I can clearly read 12pt type in the fields at a distance of 12+" - you decide how PL that is.

Rant related to the original coin: All the bidding it could generate at ebay was $20-ish. What a crock. I had a Reserve on it, thank goodness - at that price, I could have it slabbed and still make money at Heritage with it.

I love buying on ebay, but I can't stand selling there.
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 Posted 07/17/2006  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
why dont you try to sell it on here, I would much rather take a little less on here and sell it to fellow collectors than sell it on ebay for a little more to god knows who. And on here you dont have the fee's and stuff.
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 Posted 07/17/2006  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thekidcollector to your friends list
But how is it possible, Theyve been here for over 200 Years and they found A new VAM, now?
They shouldv'e noticed it before, shouldn't they?

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 Posted 07/17/2006  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
TKC, there are, literally, millions of Morgans still around. Van Allen and Malis built their original effort around a very small percentage of those - admittedly, thousands upon thousands of coins studied, but still only a small percentage. When you look at it that way, it becomes easier to understand why new VAMs are being discovered every day. In fact, the definition of what qualifies as a "new VAM" has been somewhat tightened over the years, because so many were being found.
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SuperDave did you happen to see the 1884CC GSA that susan had on ebay? I have never seen one like it in the book nor on the update page, I was wondering if you have
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 Posted 08/10/2006  8:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mad4Morgans to your friends list
I have one just like it so I do not believe it is a strikethrough. Excuse the poor photo, someday I will need to learn my new camera enough to show a decent shot.

Mine is also clashed and has doubling in the stars, letters, and profile of the obverse to include LIBERTY. It also has some slight die pitting.

To see some of this doubling, you might want to shine a flashlight towrds the edges of the details like how I did it on the star below:

What VAM is it? I haven't taken time to check but it does appear that the eye looks like that similar to a "Gator Eye".

You might want to take a closer look at yours.

New-VAM????
New-VAM????
New-VAM????
New-VAM????
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Originally posted by Mad4Morgans

I have one just like it so I do not believe it is a strikethrough. Excuse the poor photo, someday I will need to learn my new camera enough to show a decent shot.

Mine is also clashed and has doubling in the stars, letters, and profile of the obverse to include LIBERTY. It also has some slight die pitting.

To see some of this doubling, you might want to shine a flashlight towrds the edges of the details like how I did it on the star below:

What VAM is it? I haven't taken time to check but it does appear that the eye looks like that similar to a "Gator Eye".

You might want to take a closer look at yours.

(pics)



Well, some of these details are now going to be a little tough to ascertain. Check out the coin after sitting out for a month on my desk.

Before:

New-VAM????

After [:0] :

New-VAM????

My poor photography skills do the color no justice. It sat, exposed, obverse up, on my desk since my last post in this thread, a little less than a month. Mine is a nonsmoking house, and I have one of those mystery-board computer desk kits from Staples - it isn't even real wood.

Crazy, ain't it? I'm tempted to let it go a little longer while more color develops, and submit it for slabbing.
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 Posted 08/11/2006  3:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
that is super wild! I have never seen something tone so much in so little time just by sitting on a desk. I have coins all over my desk and some have been on here close to a year and have absolutely no toning what so ever
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 Posted 08/11/2006  5:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
I have four or five of them doing the same thing, to lesser degrees than this one. One of them is a downright beautiful shade of amber. All just sitting on my computer desk.
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Do you suppose that has anything to do with those clumps of hair falling off your head?
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 Posted 08/12/2006  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
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Originally posted by Mad4Morgans

Do you suppose that has anything to do with those clumps of hair falling off your head?



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I'm tellin' ya, the speed with which it happened has me wondering about my keyboard environment......
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 Posted 08/12/2006  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
does it have something with where you live? Like something is in the air out there that causes the coins to tone so fast or is it just on your desk?
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 Posted 08/12/2006  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mad4Morgans to your friends list
My guess is his desk is off-gassing some chemical that is accelerating the toning especially if it's one of those composition board types.
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