Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Specializing in Modern Numismatics Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer 300,000 items to help build your collection! Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin AuctionsJoin Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Diagnostics Of Genuine 1877 IHC

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
First Page  Showing last 15 replies.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 23 / Views: 6,404Next Topic Page 2 of 2
Bedrock of the Community
United States
17884 Posts
 Posted 06/24/2010  09:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Even if the weakness of the N is subtle it can still be easily recognized by the serifs on the N. The type 1 N has very wide thin serifs and the type 2 N has much narrower slightly thicker serifs. Look at the serifs at the top of the right upright and they are very different between the two types. See the genuine posted by Moe and the fake posted by Numismo to see the difference.
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
16679 Posts
 Posted 06/24/2010  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
Great point conder101.
swcoin.ecrater.com
Pillar of the Community
United States
8904 Posts
 Posted 06/25/2010  5:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
Hey Robuddo!

Can we see the obverse of your gorgeous 1877 IHC? (It's VERY pretty!)

Pillar of the Community
United States
2757 Posts
 Posted 06/25/2010  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list
moe145 - ask and ye shall receive.

It's probably not the obverse you had in mind, but here she is.

Diagnostics-Of-Genuine-1877-IHC

Diagnostics-Of-Genuine-1877-IHC
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
16679 Posts
 Posted 06/25/2010  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
Judging only on the reverse, there is no way I would have giving that coin a 35. It looks like a solid XF, perhaps AU :-O
Yeah, let's see the obverse!
swcoin.ecrater.com
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
16679 Posts
 Posted 06/25/2010  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
Wow! Mint error too. Looks struck thru grease. I still believe its higher than 35.
swcoin.ecrater.com
Pillar of the Community
United States
2757 Posts
 Posted 06/25/2010  7:07 pm  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list
vermontensium; the reverse is pristine and that's one reason I was attracted to it. It's also rare for PCGS/NGC to give a coin that has been heavily struck through grease/water a grade, period. They probably went on the conservative side as you suggested, but I'm just glad they gave it a grade. The key features on the obverse would grade VG on details, and I got it for a VG graysheet price, so there was no way I could turn it down.
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
16679 Posts
 Posted 06/25/2010  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
You did well and its a great looking coin! You should be proud of that one ;-)
swcoin.ecrater.com
Pillar of the Community
United States
8904 Posts
 Posted 06/25/2010  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
One COOL 1877!!

Amazing! A key for series AND an error coin?!! Incredible! Talk about rare!!

I'm glad you showed us that!

Thanks!
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
16679 Posts
 Posted 06/25/2010  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
I know. Isn't that one cool coin!
swcoin.ecrater.com
Pillar of the Community
United States
4541 Posts
 Posted 06/26/2010  12:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daviscfad to your friends list
very nice 1877
Pillar of the Community
United States
613 Posts
 Posted 06/26/2010  1:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add razorear to your friends list
How many different obverse dies were used for the 1877's not including the proof dies? Thanks in advance.
Pillar of the Community
United States
2757 Posts
 Posted 06/28/2010  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list
Number of Proof dies:
3 obverse & 3 reverse (avg 303 per var.).

Regular issue:
2 obverse die & 1 reverse die.

Total coins struck in 1877: 825,500. Average number of coins struck from a single die throughout the Indian head series = 200,000 coins.

Rick Snow basically concludes that there are either other dies or there really weren't 825,500 Indian cents struck that year ...
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
16679 Posts
 Posted 06/28/2010  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
I was aware of the 2 & 1 on the biz strikes but not 3 & 3 on the proofs. Thanks!
swcoin.ecrater.com
Pillar of the Community
United States
613 Posts
 Posted 06/29/2010  07:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add razorear to your friends list
That explains alot to me. I always thought there was only 1 obverse die used. I've been trying to use the date as a diagnosis to counterfeits. No wonder its been giving me a tough time. Thanks guys.
Page 2 of 2   Previous TopicReplies: 23 / Views: 6,404Next Topic Page 2 of 2
First Page  Showing last 15 replies.
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.


    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.38 seconds to rattle this change. Forums