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2005-P West Virginia Quarter Looks Silver

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 Posted 06/24/2010  04:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RobertHoward to your friends list
thank you again and good night from here.
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 Posted 06/24/2010  07:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list
Is it the S you mmentioned in the description or the P mint that you listed it as in the title?

Looking forward to reading the weight of the coin.
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 Posted 06/24/2010  09:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
I think his reference to the weight and mint mark of the S minted coin was an answer for the "may be a proof silver coin" question
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 Posted 06/24/2010  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
If it is a quarter on a nickel planchet, then the devices will fall over the edge of the rim as the die is larger than the nickel planchet. It would look something like this:
2005-P-West-Virginia-Quarter--Looks-Silver
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 Posted 06/24/2010  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Never give any credence to the statement "it is obviously lighter than" or "heavier than" unless it is accompanied by an actual measured weight. After years of such statements I find that most people can not accurately judge if a one piece is heavier of lighter than another without practice unless the difference is 5 grams or more. Even with practice they can seldom judge difference of less than a gram. I can't begin to count the number of "It is much lighter than a regular cent" "aluminum cents" which when they were finally weighted were 3.1 gram plated copper cents.

It isn't that I think you are lying Robert, it's just that I have learned to discount subjective impressions. (And you would be surprised how many "silver" P or D mint State Quarters get reported that turn out to be those plated quarters the TV coin shows have been selling for the last ten years.)
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 Posted 06/24/2010  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RobertHoward to your friends list
Thank you Conder101 for the advice (FYI) I am Internet ignorant and am not familiar with my wife's camera, but, thinking I am going to try to get the quarter down to the post office and have it weighed and my 7 month pregnant wife "promises" to help me get the photographs on here today. I have already downloaded the photo software. Just had another idea, I need to go by the pharmacy and pick up some meds, I'm positive they would have a scale and a willingness to help me out. Again, thank you for your advice and helping me focus on ways to figure this out!
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 Posted 06/24/2010  1:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list
The pharmacy should have a more accurate scale than the post office...another option would be a jewelry store.
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 Posted 06/24/2010  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RobertHoward to your friends list
Thank you steve199. A work related extreme injury (hit by forklift while working on a machine at work: shattered heel, blown knee, lower back broken, and neck messed up) I'm in between surgeries - this Friday I go in for the fourth surgery on my heel and a consultation right before on this new procedure that burns a groove into bulged discs causing the fluid to draw back in for four discs in my lower back. Therefore my ability to get around is dependant on friends and family and my pregnant wife (don't ever push my luck there by asking too much, this one isn't going so easy for her) and were I live is about 3 miles to the closest jewelry store, the pharmacy is about 3 blocks away, Post Office 1 mile. After awhile you realize how much of a burden a grown injured man can become. probably too much info but I am getting excited about this coin and am just grateful there is a place like this with so many people willing to just take a moment to help a person they do not even know. I've only used the Internet to keep up on my trade and escape into music to try and keep my chin up. Thank you again, you and all.
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 Posted 06/24/2010  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RobertHoward to your friends list
Qualifying Statement: No scale at pharmacy, Post Office says .2 oz! The elderly neighbor friend who ran me around (excellent gentleman) has limes disease newly diagnosed after year of improper diagnoses and medications that have ravaged his nervous system, in short palsies. I being on all the medications I take when I try to steady my hand it shakes even more. Oh yeah, I might have inquired my neighbor being an ex-re-loader, but on the way back he tells me that he has a reloading scale at home (appreciation overrode my exasperation). O.K. enough rambling, remember as best we could zero his 2 scales (it just gets better) first the OHAUS 10.10 Precision Reloading Scale = 89.3 grains (start laughing or stop) he brings out his OHAUS Triple Beam Balance = 5.7 grams, yeah folks the math isn't correct but please remember shaking and like I said Elderly as were these scales. My wife, love her dearly, promises, promises she'll help me get the photos.
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 Posted 06/24/2010  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RobertHoward to your friends list
Conder101 any suggestions on how it was made to look silver (WOW ego check) I don't know if the photos will help but they will be on by tonight. It was like my grandpa used to say, walk slow and drink lots of water!
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 Posted 06/24/2010  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
Ok, weight at 5.7g is normal for a clad quarter. You more than likely have a quarter that was plated with silver or another white metal, most plating methods add a negligible amount of weight. Silver plated quarters turn up quite frequently around here, many marketing companies did promotions of plated State Quarters and sold them in sets for exorbitant amounts of money. When an owner finds out that the quarters are really only worth face value, they pass them on to a grandkid, sell them at a garage sale, or spend them.
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 Posted 06/24/2010  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RobertHoward to your friends list
biokemist6 thanks! Is it even worth asking another favor and getting it weighed on a proper digital scale, or just tuck chin and try to forget that I am pretty sure I have made myself internationally embarrassed. I have never used a scale that wasn't electric and calibrated, do you think our shakiness and not even worrying about perfection would be enough to triple check myself.
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 Posted 06/25/2010  02:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RobertHoward to your friends list
Well, so much for the "promised" photos tonight, sorry. I've let a detailed note as to what I would "kindly like her to follow through with. I'm not sure how with it I will be tomorrow, but I working the guilt angle on her, about my already looking like an idiot, I need not make myself appear a liar, we'll see. Usually after one of my surgeries it has only taken about 3 - 4 days to to come back (mentally) enough to begin to attend to business. I do appreciate everyone who assisted me in my much enjoyed excitement and do plan to have an ending to my little adventure, and would like to just follow through completely, so it will get done, my promise!
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 Posted 06/25/2010  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CRH to your friends list
I think internationally enlightened is a better way of looking at it RobertHoward.

Here's a similar story for you. I work in the printing industry, digital pre-press and just this past Friday, one of the pressmen brought in a silver State Quarter that he got in change that morning. He was showing it to one of the salesmen when I heard about it so I asked "whatcha got there?"

Mind you, I was mostly interested in the story part of finding it in change. If I were looking to buy a silver State Quarter that day, a circulated one wouldn't be my first, second or third choice. Still, it would be worth something over melt. The pressman was feeling everyone out seeing who might want to buy it. Just to heighten suspense of the moment, I say "ooooh, and silver is over $18 and ounce right now". They both look at me sort of blankly like until that moment they had no idea if silver was $1.80 an ounce or $180. Founded or not, I believe with mention of that visions of dollar signs danced in their heads.

I was in the middle of something when all this came about, so I said later on I'll find out how much silver there was in a State Quarter. [In retrospect, I need to know this sort of thing off the top of my head!] But it was not to bolster or hinder the success of neither buyer nor seller, it's just that I myself would have at least offered melt for it. In the mean time the salesman is looking up silver State Quarters online and coming up with e-bay auctions and coin shops.

So after lunch the pressman brings the coin around again and is showing it to the salesman and obviously ready to sell. I was in the middle of something else again by then and only paying peripheral attention but I do tell them the amount of silver in a silver State Quarter. Before you know it the silver State Quarter and $2 change hands with the salesman the happy new owner (he'd been looking at MS e-bay and coin shop prices all morning) and the pressman the happy profitier (probably would have had this thing in the soda machine before long.) I say "Two dollars? I'd have at least given you $3-4".

Just as the deal makers are about to part I hear one of them mention "D". This gets my attention and I say "D? Let me see that thing!" The proud new owner hands the coin over and I look at it under a handy printers loupe and it is silver alright, and it's also a D. I say "This should be an S". But he didn't get it. The salesman is the nicest guy too and not they type you think of when you think of "salesman". He took the position after a long career in the pressroom and is only a couple years from retirement. It was pretty obvious this made his day big time so I didn't have the heart to say those day spoiling words "silver plated".

Before the deal was made I certainly would have said something had I known it was a D. If you plug silver plated State Quarter into Google, the Home Shopping Network is the first hit. And I'm all for numismatic education but after the deal was done and knowing the cast of characters (and I weighted this for the rest of the afternoon before deciding) I would have felt like a jerk pointing it out. Everyone was happy with the deal and saying more may have meant otherwise, but mostly because it just seemed to make the salesman's day (and in the printing industry there isn't much to do that these days.)

So RobertHoward, I would not feel embarrassed at all. Why? Because Home Shopping Network and similar sources silver plate coins specifically to make them look and seem like solid silver coins. So it's is an easy mistake to make. In fact it's the second instance I've heard of it in 5 days!

Instead I give you much credit because you did something that most people don't do. You found a great coin forum and posted the question and with the help of others have educated yourself. I admire your determination in your personal situation as well. This thread will also serve to educate others who maybe don't join but search under similar circumstances and come up with your experience. You won't even know who all this has helped. As a fledgling member here myself dare I speak for the group to say that it would bring smiles all around to find that your plated silver quarter had opened up an interest in coins for you. Wanting yet another option on your coin tells me you really really want it to be a silver quarter. So in that light I'll pose this question to ya Robert:

Do you now find an interest in owning a genuine 2005 West Virginia silver quarter? Or another state?
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 Posted 06/26/2010  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RobertHoward to your friends list
CRH you really made me feel good there, thanks. Under normal working conditions I do buy coins, but only from the SF mint using the phone, not trusting computer security and put them in the safety deposit box (for my children). Current situation has nearly emptied my box (sucks, but it will start filling back up soon I am sure). This has sparked an interest in educating myself, so as to hopefully not wash rinse and repeat. Normally, I do learn from my mistakes! Still working on photo, she says tonight, we will see.
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