Seller Refused To Send Items I Paid For...

Eaglenest, once the money order from the USPS is cashed and if the seller does not send you the item it is then called "mail fraud" and that is a felony. The postal inspector will get involved and most sellers when threatened with this little fact (even if they had no intentions of sending the item) will send it to you with a quickness

Dave, you asked valid questions and am pleased you received a number of meaningful responses from those who have been through it before. Nothing like a little experience to gain knowledge.

Like you, I have no easy access to coin shops. In fact, as far as I can tell, the nearest to my present location is 130 or so miles away in the middle of a major city (Phoenix) to which I don't drive unless my life and car insurance and Last Will and Testament are up to date and I've started the trip with the attitude, "Today is a good day to die.". ebay is really my only option for both buying and selling coins, so I make the best of it with the complete foreknowledge that there's a lot of predators out there and my carcass makes for great prey. After almost seven years eBaying, I still haven't been seriously tagged out.

Playing the ebay game is always a risky proposition. Even the most experienced of us can be hoodwinked on occasion. It is not a venue for the faint of heart. However, with a little experience and a lot of homework, one can easily survive and even thrive in the ebay jungle.

Fred

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Originally posted by Eaglenest

One thing I did miss was a requirement of Paypal's Protection Policy. The seller must have 50 Positive feedbacks. Anyway life goes on.

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I think this is a new requirement (and probably in the teeny, tiny fine print that nobody ever reads). As far as I knew, buyers were always protected through Paypal. If they are not going to offer buyer protection if the seller has less than 50 positives, they should not allow sellers with less than 50 positives to accept Paypal. Seems very dishonest and misleading to me.

I just looked it up on the Paypal site and it is the seller's responsibility to meet the requirements in order to display the Payapl Buyer Protection icon in the listing. One way or another, I would have thought you would be protected. I was also interested to read that the 50 positive feedback ratings need to be for auctions paid for via Paypal.

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Originally posted by ageka

quote: I was also interested to read that the 50 positive feedback ratings need to be for auctions paid for via Paypal.

How disgracefull of them

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I agree. It is outrageous! Also, quite sneaky, a very nice loop-hole.

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Originally posted by Eaglenest

Hi Fred,

You know what I'm talking about. The Coin Gallery is in Phoenix around 35th Ave. I am 20 miles west of there and I am guessing you are in Flag or Tucson or an east or west pont.
Your comments about driving in there have me LOL. Especially "Today is a good day to die." That is very true and its not getting any better.

Dave

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Dave, I missed the Arizona connection in your post, so am responding a wee bit late. At this moment, I'm about 18 miles ESE of Flagstaff, camped out in the wilds of Coconino Natl Forest, but will be heading off to Prescott NF in a few days (Fri 25 Aug) for a VA appointment, then heading back down to my winter feeding grounds in the desert (I'm a fulltime RVer) - not near anyplace, but the mailing address is Salome which is 25 mi WNW of my tiny isolated RV park (40 units) just off I-10 Exit 69. It's kinda hard to guess where you're located since Phoenix is so spread out (a trip to the Coin Gallery on 35th sounds like a kamikazi mission), but I'm thinking you're from around Avondale, Goodyear, or maybe Buckeye. Ferret Lord (also a WINS member) is from Buckeye and dsking (Deb) is in Mesa; Steve (Ferret Lord) and I have plans to meet this fall; would be great if we Aridzona coin types could get together.

Fred

Dave, I haven't found any coin shops in either Flagstaff nor Prescott although that doesn't mean they don't exist. One thing I've noticed is a fair number of pawn shops in both cities, but I haven't gotten around to checking them out since pawn shops often deal with coins (and firearms and lots of other interesting and expensive things). Maybe next year.

Williams in an interesting little town. In addition to having the most expensive gas in the area (3.37/gal), it also is the origin of the Grand Canyon Railroad which I'd like to take, and also has an old American Standard Class 4-4-0 locomotive of which I'd like some pics if I can figure out how to get down there.

Ten ounce minimum of gold at the Coin Gallery? Too many zeros after the dollar sign for me. I'll have to wait until I get next week's allowance or mow somebody's lawn in Mesa. (For those not in The Know, there are very, very few lawns in the Phoenix area. Water is as precious as gold.)

Fred

Dave, I'm now back at my home base in the middle of the desert, got back yesterday (Fri 1 Sep). Going from 49F at night to 110F in the day and with rain most days all summer to a location which has seen 3" of rain this past 11 months (no monsoons here) is gonna take some acclimatization. My travel trailer's air conditioner is working overtime just to get inside down to 90F. I'm gonna be busy with the park's water system into October (I got drafted to get state certified last spring; at least it pays the rent), but I sure would like to get the Arizona coiners together this fall. Buckeye is about as central a location as we're gonna find. Got any ideas of a luncheon spot not far from I-10? Maybe near the new Fry's?

Fred

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I live in Buckeye as well.

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OMG.... So do I.

We HAVE to get in touch with each other for lunch or dinner or something. You me and Fred(we already said we would get together after he came back down to the desert) are within 30 minutes of each other.

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Well, almost. It takes me ten minutes just to get off the goat path which passes for a county road before I get on I-10. Washboarded potholed unpaved dust- or mud-filled open range cattle trail is a better description of my road. The 9th Infantry in the 1870s wouldn't use it since it was so rough and the Apaches couldn't give it away, so we built this little RV park in the desert to keep all but the hardiest hardcore tourists away. We pave it a little at a time with the oil leaking out of our punched-out oilpans.

From Exit 69 might be another 30 minutes, depending on my speed which is usually one of the lowest on the road, and which Buckeye exit I'll take.

Also, Debbie (dsking) is in Mesa and I think SuperDave is also from AZ (I might be confused on this . The Arizona Chapter of CCF is, however, well-represented. We shall overcome!

Pick a weekday, probably in October. Wednesday's work best for me, usually (that said, as soon as we settle on a date, something will come up), but I can work with just about any day with enough advance notice. Will need directions to wherever you guys decide.

This will be my first eyeball with anyone in the group, but don't expect me to wear a tuxedo. Ah'm retahred (don't go there ). I even got me a cowboy hat!

Just had another thought. One of us ought to start a new thread on this embryonic AZCCF gathering to let all the Zonies know what's happening.

This desert weather is confusing. One minute, I complain that we've gotten 3" of rain in 11 months and the next, we get dumped on with 25% of our year-to-date total with major lightning and internet-killing wind. And it's headed your way! At least it cooled things off until manana.

Looking forward to the get-together!!!!

Fred