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Close Vs Wide AM Lincoln Cents

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 Posted 10/15/2010  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add plantlouse to your friends list
I'm 99% sure I've found a '92-D Lincoln Cent with a '93 ( Close AM) reverse. What are the recommended steps to take from here to get the maximum value?
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 Posted 10/15/2010  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
He's a photo I've made of a secondary marker between Close AM and Wide AM.

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 Posted 10/16/2010  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add plantlouse to your friends list
Correct! No perceivable serif on the G, and the FG is a little further away than usual.
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 Posted 10/16/2010  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismo to your friends list
plantlouse, first Secondly . That's the only way we can give you info about your find.
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 Posted 10/17/2010  4:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add plantlouse to your friends list
Thanks for the welcome, Numismo! Ironically, my camera died a couple weeks ago, and the camera on my phone barely has the resolution for me to recognize my wife. In hopes of establishing a measure of credibility, let me say that I have looked at pennies for these types of errors since news of the 2000 proof reverse ( Wide AM) broke and have found two of those 2000 proof reverse specimens in that time. (To my wife's chagrin, I probably see 1500 pennies a month.) This is the first of any other type of the "wrong reverse" I have encountered. In the meantime, assuming the coin is genuine (I'd gauge it at probably AU-50), I suppose I need to send it in to be certified. Are PCGS and NGC the preferred services? I have no experience with grading services and would appreciate any advice in this area. Or would another course of action be recommended? Thanks!
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 Posted 10/17/2010  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list
Louse, u'm sorry, Plantlouse :)
First thing to do is to verify that you have an actual close
a.m. You can either do it on your own or have a few experienced
coin variety people do that. Or you can get some pics. of the coin.
I'm sure someone you know has a dig. camera you can borrow or they can
do the shots for you. Then post on here and you will get a verification.
Then after you verify it you can choose one of the top 3 grading services. Anacs, ngc, pcgs. With anacs you do not have to belong to
any org. etc. and can send it in on your own. I was lucky enough to have seen in person the first 92-P close a.m. that was ever found. Saw it the day it was brought in to a local coin dealer and then after the slab. On a find like that you could get a freebie from anyone of the top 3 TPG's at the time as far as a slab etc. They want the hoop-la so they do a rare find for free. As far as the 92-D cam check out ea. TPG's population reports. If there is one (i am not sure on the 92-D) that has not done one yet, give them a call and try to set up a deal for the cert./slab. Just an idea !

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 Posted 10/19/2010  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add plantlouse to your friends list
No problem on the name, there, Indian1; I brought it on myself. Suffice it to say, it goes back to the days of my early youth when my older brother taunted me. Two things on that: today he and I get along famously and I find that--astonishingly--very few web sites have that user name as an active one, so it usually goes through without a hitch. Now, back to business. I have found an old camera--let's see if I can get some kind of a 3rd grade image out of it. If I do, what do I do to attach that image? I don't see an obvious button to click on. (Forgive me. I'm brand new here and haven't had the chance to read the bylaws yet.)
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 Posted 10/19/2010  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list
Hi

Upload your pics to a free web hosting site like photobucket.
Then copy the direct link to the pic/pics. you can the copy and
paste the links on here with your post.
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 Posted 10/19/2010  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiepb to your friends list
DVCollector,

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

Your secondary marker image helped me confirm that I've got a Wide 1998 P cent. I kept looking at it and comparing it to a normal Close one, and couldn't determine because there is a dirt speck that is in the gap between the A and M. Now that I have that marker, I know what I've got.

One more question - isn't the 1998 a rarer variety than the 1999 or 2000? Or is that wishful thinking?
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 Posted 10/20/2010  06:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add still lookin to your friends list
The 1999 is by far the harder to find. I have found about equal amounts of both 1998 and 2000 and both of these I have found about 6 times more than I have found the 1999.
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 Posted 10/20/2010  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list
My ratio is exactly the same as still lookin....6 ea of the 1998 & 2000, one 1999. I've also found some worn dies that show a gap, but the secondary markers confirmed there were not WAM's.
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 Posted 10/24/2010  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add plantlouse to your friends list
Regarding the 92-D with a 93 reverse, I have finally created a photobucket account. The direct links are http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums...P7160006.jpg and http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums...P7160007.jpg. The photos are not very good at all. (I didn't care about the detail on the obverse.) I hope they're good enough. How do I get the pictures on the postings?
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 Posted 10/24/2010  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list
plantlouse,that looks like the real deal...if that A and M are practically touching, send it to PCGS,NGC,or ANACS for grading.Nice find !
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 Posted 10/24/2010  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list
plantlouse, can you get a closer picture of the designers initials? That would be a key indicator.

If the initials match those of a regular '93-'08, you have a Close AM.
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