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Bring Back The 2-Cent Coin

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 Posted 09/10/2010  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tnwalker10 to your friends list
Prethen is right, our coinage is so outdated we're carrying around worthless stuff. IMHO I think .25 should be our smallest coin, and we need a $1 and $5 coin. The $1 and $5 bills should be eliminated.

I think getting away from precious metal coinage has caused our coins to become cruddy and almost worthless. They're so worthless they lay in nasty ashtrays, and other undesirable places and people won't even bother to pick them up.
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 Posted 09/10/2010  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ozland to your friends list
All this does it make it painfully clear the dollar has lost value. How much value you ask? One cent in 1909 would today purchase 14 cents in value today. In real language we can all understand. The dollar can now purchase 4 cents in value. It has lost 96 cents per dollar in purchasing power. Why? The United States government spends money it doesn't have and continues to do so. The government devalues the dollar to pay the bills that are due in cheaper dollars. This has been a long standing practice that both polictical parties sign off on.
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 Posted 09/11/2010  2:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carmykle to your friends list
Remember when you could get 20 pieces of candy for a penny? Lets keep it like it is but update the coins and get rid of the dollar bill.
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 Posted 09/11/2010  2:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add usc96 to your friends list
Not sure I follow the math on the 1 penny = 14 cents, followed by the $1 = 4 cents example, but I agree the money isn't worth what it use to be.

I like the suggestion that we dump the small change and add new coinage for higher denominations. Let's go straight to $1, $2, $5, $10, $20 and $50 silver, and $100, $500, $1,000 and $5,000 gold coins. If we must have paper money, we could reinstitute paper currency for $500, $1,000, $5,000, $10,000 and $100,000 denominations.
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 Posted 09/11/2010  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pls to your friends list
Lincoln Cent is converted to 2¢ aluminum or even acrylic and is reduced to the size of the euro cent, 5¢ is reduced in size to about the current cent but thicker and aluminum or as cheap an alloy as possible is used; dime and quarter remain; paper dollar is dumped and dollar coins are flooded into the market. Problem solved.
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 Posted 09/11/2010  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gothic Florin to your friends list
I think we need to get rid of the cent sometime fairly soon. I wouldn't actually be a fan, because then I couldn't roll hunt for wheats any more! The cost combined with the current economic situation means that we're probably going the way of the 5 cent rounding, IMO.
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 Posted 09/11/2010  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsmalouf to your friends list
I was kind of surprised at this thread. It seems the idea of a Two Cent coin would be utterly worthless in replacing the one cent coin.

Like someone said, we may as well go straight to 5 cent rounding and stick with nickels.

Who knows, soon enough they may do away with it all.
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 Posted 09/11/2010  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add usc96 to your friends list
What is interesting about this thread is it seems like common knowledge that our currency has lost value. I would argue that the pace that it is losing value is increasing. However, if you look at the CPI which is suppose to be a measure of inflation, you would believe, at least in the recent past, we have no inflation and the money is keeping it's value. Unfortunately, as we all know from trying to stretch our dollars, nothing is further from the truth.
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 Posted 09/11/2010  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add StJoeBlues to your friends list

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I think we need to get rid of the cent sometime fairly soon.


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It has lost 96 cents per dollar in purchasing power. Why? The United States government spends money it doesn't have and continues to do so.


Maybe we ought to just get rid of 96% of the government as well as the Federal Reserve.
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 Posted 09/12/2010  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsmalouf to your friends list
usc96, Peter Schiff discusses the CPI and how it's tweaked to disguise the true inflation in his book, Crashproof.

Like you said...all I know is my OJ is getting more expensive, so is my bread and many other things.
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 Posted 09/12/2010  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add usc96 to your friends list
My movie tickets were $10 each last night. Medium bag of popcorn and med drink equaled $13. The is probably cheap to our manhattan members, but I live in a southern town, and this is an increase from last year. However, since the CPI says there is no inflation, that fiction means I can't increase my 401k contribution this year. There again, this is the first year I can remember where the amount of income that you have to pay social security tax on didn't go up, so at least there is one good thing to come from this fiction.
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 Posted 09/12/2010  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list

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Remember when you could get 20 pieces of candy for a penny?


I remember when you could get 100 pc. of candy for a dollar but then, I didn't have a dollar but I did have somewhere between a nickel and ten cents when I went to the "penny candy store".

Some of the candy was
jawbreakers and Fireballs
swedish fish
licorice
flying saucers
big malted speckled eggs.
wax lips, wax mustaches, wax teeth
wax tubes of colored syrup drinks and they had em in soda bottle shapes too.
pretzel sticks
2 wild cherries on a string ( in February for Washington's Birthday )
They called em nigger babies right on the box ( honest to gawd, they were licorice sugar sprinkled black chewy babies )
Tootsie rolls and Tootsie Pops
They had a piece of paper that had dots stuck on them too that they rolled out and tore off and you would eat the dots of different colors right off the paper.
candy cigarettes and these were stuck together in 3's with pink coloring on the end.
You could get bubble gum cigarettes too and if you blew out the powdery stuff it looked like real smoke.

Today kids can't do the math to go to a store and get change in 2 and Three Cent coins, not only that the cash registers don't know how to do it either.
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 Posted 09/13/2010  08:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list
Another thing that has not been mentioned is that if we introduce a 2c coin, then we would be required to keep the 1c coin, because you can't get 3c change with 2c coins.
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 Posted 09/14/2010  09:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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Peter Schiff discusses the CPI and how it's tweaked to disguise the true inflation in his book, Crashproof.

The CPI is definitely a fiction. For ages it has claimed around 3% a year. I run a carpet shop and we keep getting letters from our suppliers telling us that due to rising cost for raw materials our prices are going up 8 - 10%. And we get this letter EVERY THREE TO FOUR MONTHS. We are experiencing 30% inflation per year and have been for at least the past four years. Our costs have tripled in four years. Material I used to sell at $12 a yard retail now costs me $18 a yard wholesale. The CPI is a joke.
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 Posted 09/14/2010  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list
I just read that cotton has gone up a lot in the last year or two, are carpets made from cotton or is it synthetic fibers?
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