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Pillar of the Community
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Out right fraud, lying, slander, false statements, not the truth and if you or me did it we would be in jail.
They out right said you can not get these coin rolls anywhere else that is not lying?
The US Mint sells them cheaper.
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Moderator
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They out right said you can not get these coin rolls anywhere else that is not lying? It is not. Because the specific rolls they show cannot be purchased anywhere else. However, what they neglect to tell you is that you can get other rolls, with the exact same coins, but in a different wrapper for a lot cheaper. The problem is that they are really selling you the package, and not the coins. A lie? No, an omission. And you have every right to be disgusted by it. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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For $39.95 you get two rolls of the quarters one P and one D mint I would like that ROI myself--which explains these pitchmen.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1026 Posts |
CSN, I can't post on here what I think of them!
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Moderator
United States
188560 Posts |
I am sure most people can guess how you feel, if only because they feel the same way. I personally choose not to do business with them for those reasons. Not just on coins, but anything else they are peddling. Just because they are within the bounds of the law does not make it right.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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You cannot get the "CSN rolls" anywhere else as they are packaged. You cannot get two rolls for $39.95 anywhere else. You can get two rolls for $20 at the bank but you can't get two rolls for $39.95 at your bank.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That's funny! True! You can not get these rolls anywhere else for such a rip off price as this!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I think what I hate more than these shows is those commercials that push those gold covered Buffalo coins or the WTC coins doing everything but claiming they are pure precious metal all the way through. Once again LISTEN to the ads and read what is on the screen They NEVER claim they are pure precious metal all the way through. The ones that always bothered me were the ones where the say they are "thickly layered with 100 mils of pure silver". That is because they term mil which means thousandth, and redefined it for their own purposes to be a contraction for millionths and they do not disclose that redefinition. 100 mils is 1/10 of an inch a plating layer but their plating layer was only 1/10,000 of an inch thick. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Now tell me how or why the government lets them say things like that. Because when they are selling special wrappers at a premium, who are they to say that private businesses can't sell their Quarters in (their own) special wrappers for a (larger) premium?  All CSN (and others) do is profit off the uninformed who don't bother to shop around for a better deal. Most specifically, the still-large portion of the older generation who do not use the Internet. The last generation that the "Age of Information" has not reached. The last generation that tends to take what salespeople say at face value.  This raises many questions concerning the long-term viability of hard-sell TV marketing once the last of the "non-Internet" generation passes. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The last generation that tends to take what salespeople say at face value. This raises many questions concerning the long-term viability of hard-sell TV marketing once the last of the "non-Internet"
generation passes. Interesting observations.  Besides coins, there are scores of CTV channels devoted to "legal" scamming of collectables, playing on impulsive buying habits. I do think they're targeting a demographic, as are some ebay sellers who take in naive buyers who don't know how to use Google. I've trained my relatives to Google first--but this place is better than Google.  Edited by DVCollector
10/01/2010 1:26 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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And once again we get back to first rule of coin collecting:
Educate yourself. If you're smart, you know you can get National Park Quarters at face value in many other places and will see through this scam.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I've trained my relatives to Google first. Like it says on the upper left, "Education is the key to collector success" (so uneducated buying would be the key to collector failure!) |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
584 Posts |
I watch these Heartless Lying CONARTISTS straight out lie to people with not even a pause in their voice. They dupe people into thinking they are buying rare and obsolete coins. I heard the voice of this little old lady who called in to thank them for a set of UNC State Hood Quarters that she was buying for her grand kids when they get older. So they could cash it in and have something for themselves. Ohh yea the man says in his soul less voice. That's a great idea. Your buying one of the best investments right here that this little bit of money can buy. The coins were over $300 closer to $400 actually. Then she said well it is a little steep for me but I borrowed against my mortgage money Ill just worry about it later. The guy said you wont be upset this is a blah blah blah lie lie lie. I can't figure out how their able to do the things they do. Common Circulated Morgans for $99. I mean their seems to be no end to what they wont do to cheat you out of your money. My heart just drops as I watch the counter just keep goin up or down, depending on if its coins left or amount sold. So many people getting ripped off. $20 for a UNC President Coin because it comes in a $1.50 print out. isn't some one watching this happen. Its wrong very wrong.
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Valued Member
United States
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They don't stop on HSN either.. $60.00 for a roll of P & D Yellow Stone national park quarters.. makes me sick
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New Member
United States
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No doubt Bruce, these things INFURIATE me, especially when they dupe friends and family who may think they're getting their loved one some special present, and believe their loved one is going to be excited about it. My 80 year old Mom nearly succumbed to such object fraud when she went ahead and bought one of those replica Gold Indian Heads. Luckily I found out about it before we accepted delivery, so it went straight back to the fools. Not only did we get OUR money back, but the "specialty mint" (yeah, their "specialty" is ripping off the general public) ended up footing the bill for shipping. It's not like the $3.99 for shipping is going to break them, but if everyone did it, maybe it would, right?  Heh... wouldn't it be an incredible coincidence if everyone who read this ordered the Max # of coins allowed or however many they can afford, then refused delivery, entitling them to a full refund through the credit card company?  At their prices, it STILL probably wouldn't make a dent in their profits. Oh well. In all seriousness, however, a good RoT is to never buy ANY coins sold on television, PERIOD! Full Stop. After the episode with my Mom, I've taken to telling this RoT to ANYONE and everyone I know, and especially those who might, at some point, be in a position where they would give me a gift. So, Bruce, you are far from alone. Actually, my hypothetical coincidence from above fits something Jello Biafra (former lead singer for the Dead Kennedy's) said on one of his "spoken word" albums. He said: "in this day and age, creative crime is not only good for the soul, but is necessary" (he said this about his run for mayor of San Francisco). Since most of these fake mints and shopping network type companies both tend to use the US Postal Service for delivery AND are basically siphoning profits off of the US Mint, forcing them to give money BACK to the government seems like the RIGHT thing to do, doesn't it?  |
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