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 Posted 11/01/2010  08:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list
personally, I prefer the U.S. coins because I know about them. and there's more learning materials on U.S. coins I the U.S.
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 Posted 11/01/2010  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
As I read it, the question is not about which country's coins are better, but which mints produce better products.

In a sense it is difficult to compare. Ideally, if you want to compare the output of two different mints, you have those mints produce the same coins for the same country, so all the technical details of the coins being compared (design, size, composition etc) are the same; the only variable is the mint facility. For the Canadian-American comparison, this hasn't occurred since the 1960s when some Canadian coins were struck in America; at that time, the American products were (in my opinion) superior. However, such a comparison would be impossible to arrange today because American mints don't produce coins for any other country except America anymore.

That being said, in my opinion the Canadian mints currently produce a technically superior product, on average, and have done so since the 1970s - though I think the Americans are catching up again.
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 Posted 11/01/2010  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list

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I'm one of those "love our wildlife and animals" types so I like any of the animals.
Me too--and that's what I like about current Canadian and Australian coins. I wish US coins could confine the politics to one side, using the reverse for more interesting subjects, such as endemic wildlife. National parks quarters are a start.

To my eyes, Canadian coins are struck better--which may be due to shorter die runs for a smaller population?
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11/01/2010 11:47 am
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 Posted 11/01/2010  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malibu to your friends list
In Canada there are two very different mints.

Ottawa produces high-end precious metal collector coins that are superior in every way to anything minted in the states and therefore a comparison is pointless.

Winnipeg uses state of the art plating technology that IMHO is greener and more efficient than US production on a per-coin basis, however there is one major difference in the quality of finished coins: our quarters, loonies and toonies are dumped into a large round metal cauldron (after minting) that stirs and dries them for a few minutes and reduces MS-65's to MS-60's. I think they call this burnishing. I call it ruining circulation coins and collector interest. I couldn't believe what I was seeing on the mint tour. I stood behind the glass and gasped while the rest of the tour moved on. I wish I could take a pic and post it here but they dont allow cameras on the mint tour. It looks a lot like this:


I think our 1 cent, 5 cent and 10 cents skip the burnishing/drying process and go straight to packaging, which would explain why they have those annoying water marks. The higher denoms come out scratched, dinged and with rim dents but happily no water marks.
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 Posted 11/01/2010  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list
Malibu, thats all good insider (inside the mint look) to know. Now I'm knowing some of the spots are mints water spots :( and other marks I see on newer coins that don't look as new as they should probably got them when they were being tumbled.

Tell me also, anyone if you can, when coins are being electroplated, is it possible for uneven depths of plating to show up on the coins? Like the plating looks pretty thin in spots and you can almost see the planchet colour showing underneath the plating?
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11/01/2010 6:40 pm
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 Posted 11/01/2010  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list
DVCollector, the Centennial year 1967's animals are my favorites of course!
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 Posted 11/01/2010  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add david mackenzie to your friends list
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 Posted 11/01/2010  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rodime to your friends list
American coins are hideous, unless you're into historic persons.
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 Posted 11/01/2010  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list

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Americans love their dead presidents and Canadians love their wildlife. I don't believe that will happen in our lifetime.


Well, US cent already dropped the president.

I personally like the design of the Canadian circulating coins better (though certain Statehood Quarters are very beautiful) while the quality of strike seems better in the south.
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 Posted 11/01/2010  11:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadanz to your friends list

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Well, US cent already dropped the president.


No they didn't. Obverse is still Lincoln, reverse is the US shield.
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 Posted 11/02/2010  12:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list
Oops! Shows how much attention I pay to US coins! Cents in particular.
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 Posted 11/02/2010  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list

If we're talking business strikes, then RCM's cupro-nickel -> nickel plated steel have always seemed higher quality. The edge (copper/nickel) on the US have always looked to me like someone was trying to pull off a con.

From a collector's standpoint, medal axis (Canada) is better for presentation than coinage axis (US).

It is odd that while the US coins seem like they've never changed, they're actually, on average, newer than ours (1c - 1959, 5c - 1938, 10c - 1946, 25c - 1932)

I agree with the post above that the Canadian 1937 reverses are long past due for a redo. But, I would redo with new artist contests for the same themes (new beaver, Bluenose, and moose). So, both a nod to tradition and something fresh.
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 Posted 11/02/2010  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list

Why no penny? Because I think it is doomed.

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 Posted 11/02/2010  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Chaser to your friends list
I am a collector of both Canadian and US coins. As having been connected to aviation my favorite sets are the Canadian Aviation Series one and Series two. Well done RCM.
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 Posted 11/03/2010  2:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list

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It looks a lot like this:

I didn't know that...why?

Dottir, yes--the Centennial coins are some of my favorites, despite the high mint runs.
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