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Fair Price For This Feuchtwanger?

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 Posted 11/05/2010  04:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jedichef to your friends list

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I sold one like that to a member here. It had a hole in it. I think it went for $40. I would crack it out.

This leads to my other question, is there anything that can be done about the corrosion? would it be worth cracking out?
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11/05/2010 04:06 am
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 Posted 11/09/2010  10:35 pm  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list
Just a follow up that I saw one at a coin show this Sunday that looks identical to the one in the slab - it was raw but was same condition plus it was cleaned. The dealer was asking $200.
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 Posted 11/09/2010  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list
and does anyone know how many of these they made? I recall reading 2,500 once, but I cannot find the source and it's kind of bothering me.
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 Posted 11/09/2010  11:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thecoinczar to your friends list
Feuchtwangers are very popular coins to collect. I feel that you got a good deal for what you paid vs. the coin's condition. Nice piece!
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 Posted 11/10/2010  10:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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I recall reading 2,500 once, but I cannot find the source and it's kind of bothering me.

Since they were privately minted there probably aren't any accurate records on mintages. But since there are 14 die varieties I would be surprised if the mintage was anywhere close to being that low. There is one R-1, three R-2, and one R-3 varieties so that would be more than 2500 surviving specimens right there. And since the survivors are only a fraction of the original mintage I would guess about 10 times that figure or 25K.
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 Posted 11/12/2010  08:09 am  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list
thanks for the good info (as usual) Conder. Out of curiosity, what's the source on the die varieties of these?
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 Posted 11/14/2010  08:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list
This oldtimer agrees that you got a good buy. I've seen far worse planchets that this one. I, too, would crack this one out for three reasons. Firstly, the word "corroded" seems harsh. Secondly, this token is in need of some conservation to remove surface contaminants (gently swab it repeatedly with an acetone-dipped Q-tip and alternate with the dry end). Thirdly, unless it's a rare or high grade coin or token that can benefit from the protection and certification of a slab, I personally enjoy seeing such historical items in a more natural state.

Feuchtwangers are Hard Times tokens and listed under that category in the Red Book. They make a great addition to a U.S. type set, too. I believe that some of Rulau's token books list the varieties. Enjoy your acquisition!
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 Posted 11/14/2010  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Right Now and Not Later to your friends list
I'd say that you did fine. For the price, it's a lovely specimen, despite the label's designation. The planchet is attractive, given the fact that most of the Feuchtwanger that I have encountered have issues far more severe than yours. Unattractive, low-grade specimens appear on ebay quite frequently for prices that are in line with what you paid for yours, which is, in my opinion, a lovely specimen. Congratulations on your purchase.
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 Posted 11/17/2010  03:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jedichef to your friends list
I'm still waiting to get this coin in hand. I plan on cracking it out, for a couple reasons: 1) I don't have any other slabbed coins, and am not sure if I really want to start down that path, no matter how bright and shiny it might be. 2) I also agree that this coin should be given every conservation effort available. 2a) if I really wanted to get it reslabbed (doubtful) there's the possibility of getting a higher grade...of course a lower grade is possible as well. I've tagged this last reason as "2a" instead of "3" because I really really don't think i'll be reslabbing it.
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 Posted 11/17/2010  2:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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Out of curiosity, what's the source on the die varieties of these?

The only book I know of is The identification of the Feuchtwanger cents, Low 120 by James Theodore Koutsoures printed in 1981. I believe it is the standard reference. The Lyman Low reference on Hard Times tokens mentioned a few of the varieties but did not try to be a true attribuion guide for them. Likewise the Russell Rulau book on tokens also does not get into all the die varieties. About four years ago there was a good attribution guide published in the Token and Medals Society Journal but it did not have any plates with it. I have created a document (MS Word and PDF) based on that TAMS article, added one new variety that has been discovered since the article was written and added images of most of the obverse and reverse dies. If you would like a copy I can email one to you.
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 Posted 11/17/2010  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jedichef to your friends list
conder, i'll take a copy of that email if you don't mind! thanks!
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 Posted 11/17/2010  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list
I'd love a copy too! And many thanks. My email is just my handle (on the left by my picture) @ yahoo dot com.
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11/17/2010 8:37 pm
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 Posted 11/18/2010  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list
So would I! PM sent, Conder.
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 Posted 11/19/2010  09:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
There are PM's here? I know you can send emails but I don't see anything about PM's. Either sending or receiving.

I've sent copies to jedichef and Robbudo, haven't received an email from xshift yet. Once I do I'll get it out to you.
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 Posted 11/19/2010  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list
heh.. sorry, pm=email. I'll send another. Check your spam folder?
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