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 Posted 11/27/2010  02:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list
It's often the case of people going overseas and most of the time, they can't spend them all or when they bring them back, no one wants them or the banks wouldn't change it for them.

So they just sell it to the coin shop for whatever they can, usually in terms of mere dollars. Or dealers just break up mintsets and they often get better money for doing so.
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 Posted 11/27/2010  03:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
There are a couple of local dealers here in Australia, and a couple in the US I know online (like joelscoins and diggafromdover) that always seem to have plenty of brand-new, unc world coins and sets of world coins on offer. I've also gotten the same vague answers when asking about their sources. A whole bunch of identical sets of BU coins isn't going to come from the random pocketings of returning travellers or tourists. Dealers with that kind of stock usually have a specialist source.

I suspect these mysterious "guys" are overseas, and probably deal in bulk world coinage, by ordering bulk bags direct from the mints or banks in the countries involved. Good journalists protect their sources, good coin dealers do, too. And I can understand why. If you ordered your coins from the same "guy", he'd want to sell you coins by the kilogram, too. So you'd end up having to become a dealer, just to get rid of all the coins you wouldn't want. And most dealers aren't too keen on seeing more competition established, especially if the new competitor would be trying to sell more or less exactly what they're selling, to the same customer base.

I wouldn't try to press them too hard for more information, either. "Beware the advice of successful people. They do not seek company." - Dogbert.
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 Posted 11/27/2010  03:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
Forgot to add a possible example of one such coin wholesaler: Mietens, in Germany.
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 Posted 11/27/2010  09:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list
I really cannot think of anyone else (anywhere), who is quite as knowledgeable about foreign coins and paper money as you are Sap.....I am very greatly impressed...

This causes me to wonder....what do you do in your off time? Do you wrestle crocs and and box with 'roos, or simply hang out with a large can of Fosters in each hand?
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 Posted 11/27/2010  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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This causes me to wonder....what do you do in your off time?


He looks at coins.
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 Posted 11/27/2010  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list
Once in my wandering through the internet I stumbled across an "educational" site that sold bulk uncirculated present day coins from many countries. The quantities had to be in 100's or 1000's to purchase.
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 Posted 11/27/2010  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maudry to your friends list
I know of at least one company in Europe that is wholesale dealer in foreign coins.
It does not sell to individuals.
I believe they have contacts to several mints.
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 Posted 11/27/2010  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cownas22 to your friends list
Mietens in Germany carries about every world coin or paper note imaginable. You have to purchase from them wholesale quantities and pay by euro transfer.
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 Posted 11/27/2010  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
My local dealer takes a lot of them in. Many people collect these in their travels and save them. Eventually, they usually end up in a dealers hands. My dealer seems to only save the UNC, silver and the valuable coins. I'm not sure what he does with the circ garbage stuff. I'll ask him next time I see him.
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 Posted 11/27/2010  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fcrazo to your friends list
When I used to work for a local dealer, I would either break up a world unc or proof set and sell individualy. I also cherrypicked world coins after collections would be aquired. I would go through 50lb bags of junk misc coins that were bought from large sorting and wrapping companies. Anything that was not worth booking would end up in a large open bin for customers to buy by the pound.

Exchange houses here and away don't like to receive back coins and thus many are stuck with something that might not be worth the expense and hassle to convert.
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 Posted 11/28/2010  08:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
There is a seller at a local flea market that has bins full of foreign coins and many appear to have just been made yesterday. And he sells them in bulk quantities.
HMMMM, is China now mass producing coins from all over the World?
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 Posted 11/28/2010  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
I wouldn't be surprized!
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 Posted 11/29/2010  01:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brokencompass to your friends list
I wish I could work for one such wholesaler! I would go through tons of coins one by one and snag the ones I like :P
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 Posted 12/01/2010  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cajun to your friends list
I have often wondered this myself!
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 Posted 12/04/2010  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fcrazo to your friends list
I did read somewhere that China bought the majority of the coins from the European Union after they finished converting to Euros. They bought it for the metal for recycling and reclamation. They are the better than the U.S. in the matter of full utilization. They don't waste there resources.

They thought it's even more profitable to sell to Americans.
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