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Possible Fake MS-69 Gold Buffalo?

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 Posted 12/03/2010  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list

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Again, why do you think it's questionable?

Because of the gouge mark showing what appears to be a non-gold material underneath.
Personally, I don't think it's "fake", I agree with the others here........Ha Ha.....but if he does drill it.....Heck !.....I'm curious now which way this will be confirmed !
It's certainly not something " I " could ever do......
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 Posted 12/03/2010  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list
I tend to agree that drilling the coin proves nothing other than the fact that the owner has a fake coin.

The PCGS labels are routinely faked and the APMEX linkage is Hearsay.
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 Posted 12/03/2010  5:01 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list

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Because of the gouge mark showing what appears to be a non-gold material underneath.


But the "gouge" is smaller than a speck of dust. It's magnified at least 20X in the first set of images. In the pic of the full slab it's at least 2X magnification and barely visible. Hand that slab to somebody to examine with their naked eye and it's invisible.

They say paranoia will destroyia. This is a prime example of that. If it was a 10oz no name gold bar without a COA, then it's a legitimate issue.

Now in 0.01% likelihood that it is a fake gold Buffalo, in a fake PCGS slab and sold by a major retailer of precious metals? Then every piece of gold in the known world is suspect.

P.S. Here's a pic of the coin as most would view it:

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12/03/2010 5:17 pm
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 Posted 12/03/2010  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list
It doesn't look like a gouge to me, looks like something on the coin,
some foreign metal or maybe an impurity.
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 Posted 12/03/2010  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
I personally have seen hair, food crumbs, and paper shreds sealed inside slabs- it does happen.
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 Posted 12/03/2010  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add diegodog to your friends list
Pictures up on afcom. It's real gold. I was able to drill through the case without hitting the coin. Once through I used a toothpick and rub off the foreign substance. Not sure what it was as I was unable to locate it.

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 Posted 12/03/2010  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list
They ( PCGS ) could have done that for you and resealed / re-slabbed it for free. Oh well.
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 Posted 12/03/2010  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add InheritedTooMuch to your friends list
pics of drilled slab here?
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 Posted 12/04/2010  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list
If this was a struck through error, you just destroyed its value by tampering with the substance on the coin.
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 Posted 12/04/2010  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
I read that other thread, and don't quite understand--given that AMPEX offered an exchange.
There was collector value as slabbed, and I now suspect it's down to bullion value.
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 Posted 12/04/2010  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
what the heck is the "Black Diamond" pedigree anyhow? Also I don't understand all the "graded wrong" posts either since this was a struck through error that happened at the mint, it shouldn't take off points
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 Posted 12/05/2010  07:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cajun to your friends list
Don't drill it. If you have any personal doubts...send it back.
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 Posted 12/22/2010  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lukkyseven to your friends list
wow...
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 Posted 12/23/2010  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lukkyseven to your friends list
By the way, it was drilled and pics are on the other forum.
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 Posted 12/26/2010  03:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stephen to your friends list
struck though debris Not a 69 but...........
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