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1878 Morgan CC

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 Posted 12/06/2010  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sidekick-CA to your friends list
You certainly do have a sharp eye Aladinslamp! Thanks for pointing this out. I went to vamworld but even after comparing, the only thing I could pick up on with my untrained eye was the dot inside of the first C. Couldn't pick up on the doubled cotton leaves and bolls. Ditto for the doubled eyelash it lists. It also mentioned die chips in the bottom of the first 8. Here's a closeup 1878-Morgan-CC What do you think? It also mentioned it had an R4 rarity. Will this enhance the value or is this just something a few VAM collectors would be concerned with?
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 Posted 12/06/2010  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sidekick-CA to your friends list
PS: That 7 still looks weird to me.
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 Posted 12/06/2010  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list
the 7 has a PMD mark on it thats why its funny looking, Vamworld only show the main points to attribute and lock a VAM in.., I am sure that if you look closely you may find other cool things on the coin...
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 Posted 12/06/2010  3:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list
and still a tuff one to find NICE FIND
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 Posted 12/06/2010  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sidekick-CA to your friends list
Thanks but just blind luck. And thanks for all the responses. Much appreciated.
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 Posted 12/07/2010  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sidekick-CA to your friends list
One final question. Would you recommend I submit to a TPG since it is a CC VAM or save my money?
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 Posted 12/07/2010  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list
Excluding bullion value, harsh cleaning usually cuts the value of a coin in half.

Hence, it may be worth more or less than an EF depending on the price difference in EF v/ AU grades.
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 Posted 12/07/2010  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list
vamview Retail guide has the 24 series at around $600 in AU uncleaned.
I seldom submitt, so perhaps someone can advise you of who will grade and attribute this cleaned coin....and the cleaned value is around 1/2 the graded value if I am not mistaken....even at $300 depending on what it initially cost you, another $40-ish might be worth putting in a slab...by a TPG....let us know how it turns out...
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 Posted 12/07/2010  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ozland to your friends list
I would not waste any money submitting it to a third party grading company. The coin is harshly cleaned.
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 Posted 12/08/2010  12:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list
what would the value be for this coin OZ,, in its harshly cleaned top 100 coin....? the "harshly" effects a lot of the grade/value...
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 Posted 12/08/2010  06:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ozland to your friends list
It easily cuts the coin's value by at least half. Having it third party graded adds no value to the coin. It only adds cost to the coin.
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 Posted 12/08/2010  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add upstate to your friends list
Someone did a number on that coin!
And such a nice piece
Why do they do it?
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 Posted 12/08/2010  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sidekick-CA to your friends list
My guess as to why they do it is just ignorance. Someone not really into collecting but someone who likes to see a nice shiny coin. I don't believe a dealer or any serious collector would want to ruin its value like that.
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 Posted 12/08/2010  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kelanies2 to your friends list
R4 and better vams are worth a slight premium for me when I sell them. Might be dumb luck though.
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 Posted 12/09/2010  03:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add busthalf to your friends list
I would say AU details cleaned
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