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 Posted 02/14/2011  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
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 Posted 02/14/2011  6:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nic to your friends list
Is the acetone for cleaning copper coins, the same as the "acetone" beauty parlors or manicurists use to clean fingernails before applying nail lacquer? thanks
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 Posted 02/14/2011  7:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
Polish nail remover can also contain softeners, fragrance, etc. Buy straight acetone in the paint dept or some pharmacies.
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 Posted 02/14/2011  7:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list
I actually had trouble with copper coins whether you like it or not.

It might be because of some residues that was on the copper coin originally which violently reacted to acetone, leaving behind some ugly toning.
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 Posted 02/14/2011  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list

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I actually had trouble with copper coins whether you like it or not.

It might be because of some residues that was on the copper coin originally which violently reacted to acetone, leaving behind some ugly toning.


You're not alone, I've heard several people chime it over the years with that. My feeling is that it cannot be blamed solely on acetone because many factors are in play. Also, from a strict chemistry standpoint: pure acetone + pure metal = no reaction

My theory for this occasional and rarely reported direct experience...

1) Contaminated acetone (impure or old), over time it can degrade
2) Organic surface residue removed
3) General over-exposure

Someday I'm going to put my mind to it to nail down the chemitry possibilies.
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 Posted 02/14/2011  11:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ricardocody to your friends list
I try to clean a IHC and also LWC killed my coins takes out the luster plus changed the color , I ll never use ing copper again .
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 Posted 02/15/2011  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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2) Organic surface residue removed
Something that is often overlooked! Do not soak a coin for too long. Acetone evaporates rather quickly, leaving what it dissolved to redeposit back onto the coin.

I find it best to do several quick soaks with a change of acetone between each.
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 Posted 02/15/2011  11:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Indeed. I think in a lot of these reported cases there was an artificial colorant or other residue that was removed to reveal the true surfaces.

I've used lab grade acetone on thousands of copper coins without ill-effect. I've even soaked a few for weeks to try to replicate the reported "bad results" and nothing happened. I know Carl has done it too and has gone so far as to place the coins in the sun while they're soaking.
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 Posted 02/16/2011  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
Some time back there was a flood or references to an an article on the web on how Copper is effected by Acetone in Sunlight. I naturally had to see this to believe it. So I placed Copper coins in a glass jar with Acetone and placed them in the Sun, the shade, in cold weather, hot weather, in my garage, in my house on a window sill and all over a period of several weeks to almost a Month. Nothing happed except I got tired of moving the jar. The solution did not change, the coins did not change. The jar did not change. Summation is the people that made those statements possibly used a different Sun than I did.
On another investigative adventure I placed a variety of coins in a jar with Acetone. Copper coins sucha s Large Cent, Indian cent, Lincoln Cents, Nickel, Dime. Allowed them to soak for a long time and the Large Cent and Indian cent took on a real Red appearance. One Lincoln Cent got real dark. Other than that, no real change. Summation is not to mix coins in Acetone.
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 Posted 02/16/2011  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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Is the acetone for cleaning copper coins, the same as the "acetone" beauty parlors or manicurists use to clean fingernails before applying nail lacquer? thanks


That is an easy one. Just go to any store and pick a bottle of fingernail polish remover and read the lable. More STUFF in that bottle that most people can't even pronounce. It is for women's nails, not coins.

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A man is reading a newspaper and one of the headlines reads: "An airplane crash in South America. Two Brazilian pilots are killed!". A woman sitting next to the man asks, excuse me, sir, how many is a brazilian?

I wrote that one down.
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 Posted 04/08/2011  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scurry64 to your friends list

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I find it best to do several quick soaks with a change of acetone between each.


Please define quick. Thank you.
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 Posted 04/08/2011  3:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
In the past I've had a few sort of bad experiences with over soaking of coins in Acetone. And as already noted it could and probably did occure due to several reasons.
1. The purity of the Acetone was not as pure as it should have been.
2. Excessive dust in the air settled on the Acetone if and when the lid was left off.
3. The glass jar this was in was not as clean as it should have been for experimentation purposes.
4. And now here is one possible problem that people never think about. The glass itself dissolves into the Acetone.
For this one you just remember there are numerous types of glass on the market today. So many of our labs are restricted to Pyrex or similar types of glass. Yet glass itself is not really such a great solid as people think. Some glass products actually sag due to lack of solidity.
I always remember in a chem class it was discussed how way back a scientist attempted to make the purest water possible at that time. He did many distilling steps and finally enclossed his sample in a very, very claen jar and sealed the top and all with glass. This now is in a museum somewhere. The water is now all cloudy. Due to the water being so pure, it just had to dissolve some of the glass.
Water is one of the worlds greatest substances for absorbing almost anything.
Would be interesting to see if Acetone would also dissolve glass over a long, long period of time.
As noted in Wikepedia:

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Normally, other substances are added to simplify processing. One is sodium carbonate (Na2CO3), which lowers the glass transition to about 1500 °C. However, the soda makes the glass water soluble,

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 Posted 04/26/2012  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimHSoars to your friends list
Hi:

Perhaps this post in the Acetone Question thread might help.

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