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 Posted 02/23/2011  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add quiquelo to your friends list
Wow! I have to start paying more attention to MAD cents!
That's what so great about this forum, you never stop learning.
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 Posted 02/25/2011  09:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
Minor misaligned die errors like this coin are extremely common and have virtually no market value. It might be worth 25c. Value increases once the design is cut off. The greater the misalignment, the greater the value. The biggest misalignment I've seen on a US coin is 50%. Anything over 10% is noteworthy.
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 Posted 02/25/2011  09:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
Okay, well, I've been digging through Lincoln cents since 1980 and to date have found fewer than a half dozen of these anywhere at any time. I cannot - still cannot - see how these are considered "common".

I'd buy this one for $5 without thinking twice.
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 Posted 02/25/2011  09:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list
I wonder how many of these are listed on ebay as "off-center" and don't get the correct attention. My guess would be a lot.
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 Posted 02/25/2011  09:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list
Took me 30 seconds to find this one, a very good candidate I would say.
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 Posted 02/25/2011  10:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelman to your friends list
So from what I have read here is this then categorized wrong since the error is on both sides of the coin?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Error-Quarter-G...em255e831a0e

and this one as well:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Error-CT-Quarte...em255c4c66d2
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02/25/2011 10:07 am
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 Posted 02/25/2011  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
The coin Bobby found is likely a very minor misaligned die - they are very common for early 1970s cents.

The two coins Nickelman found are NOT misaligned dies - they are off-center strikes.
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 Posted 02/25/2011  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
Actually, both ebay auction coins are uncentered broadstrikes.
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02/25/2011 11:45 am
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 Posted 02/25/2011  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cud Wild to your friends list
mikediamond: This coin is misaligned by 10 percent atleast. I find misaligned dies all the time around 2-5% off. I never keep them because like what you say they are only worth around 25 cents a piece.
Edited: I stand corrected its only about 8-9% misaligned. I will say this is the most misaligned coin I've ever found through thousands of dollars of pennies searched. Even though its only worth 25 cents I'm still keeping it. Its a keeper in my book.
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02/25/2011 3:23 pm
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 Posted 02/25/2011  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list
I would definitely have kept that coin as well. I keep the more severe ones and toss the minor ones back into the wild, but would never have guessed there was any kind of premium associated with them.
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 Posted 02/25/2011  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tunnioc to your friends list
Wow, this is a little more misaligned than I thought. Its so much fun learning this stuff.
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 Posted 02/25/2011  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
The way I personally look at them is that they have premium value if the area directly across from the thickest part of the misalignment is cut off enough to touch the design elements closest to the rim. In this case I would say yes...barely, but yes.

I too have seen thousands of very minor misaligned die strikes through the years - many off just enough to give the hint of a double rim. Those all go back in the garbage coins. I submit that it is very uncommon indeed to find a Lincoln Cent with an obverse die misaligned enough to touch the letters of the motto, the L of LIBERTY, or the bottom of the bust. Those - in nice condition - are worth a $5 bill to me. The examples that actually cut off design elements go up significantly, because those are down right rare. I have owned one and have seen half a dozen of them - and have NEVER found one.

I am not posting to directly disagree with Mike here. I am merely saying that - from a person who has searched hundreds of thousands of Lincoln cents in his life - these are NOT common at all.
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 Posted 02/25/2011  10:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
And again - these should NOT be confused with uncentered broadstrikes (formerly known as off-center strikes), which show an off-center design on BOTH sides of the coin.

Misaligned die strikes (like the 1982 cent subject in this thread) have an off-center obverse and a completely normal reverse.

The big difference here is that the former is quite a bit more common than the latter.
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 Posted 02/26/2011  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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but it may be that only the obverse die can be adjusted horizontally

Both anvil and hammer dies can be misaligned, but since the anvil die is constrained within the collar it can't be off as much as the hammer die can be. the anvil die can never be so far off that part of the design is missing. (Notice I say anvil and hammer and not obv/rev. Which die is the hammer die depends on what series you are discussing.)
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 Posted 02/26/2011  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
Actually, the anvil die can show a dramatic horizontal misalignment, although it is rare. It requires the anvil die and the collar (or the entire anvil die assembly) to move sideways as a unit. Another way it occurs is for the collar to break apart, which frees the anvil die from its embrace. Coins struck in either circumstance are, of necessity, broadstrikes. Major misalignments arising from both circumstances have been documented and published in Errorscope and Coin World.
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